WWW Chat Bible CommentaryUser-Posted Comments on Song of Songs 7:5Scripture teaches man deceased are in their tombs. They know nothing because they are in a state of unconsciousness. Satan says in dying you will not really die from Genesis 3. Messiah tells us that man deceased are in their tombs awaiting which resurrection they will be raised in (John 5). John 3 tells us that no man has entered into heaven. Eccl 3 and Psalm 49 and other scriptures tell us that man is in the grave when he expires! Heaven is not the inheritance of the saints; but upon the earth like the Hebrew prophets teach. Let the scripture teach and the Word made flesh be your teacher alone, not your lying minister!!! Teaching of the SOUL is deception coming right from the bowels of paganism! Nominal Christianity and Judaism are liars in regards to the issue of death giving their congregations false hopes of going to heaven!
- Truth of YAH (8/29/2019 2:31:17 AM) Song of Solomon 7:5 While promoting his booklet on S.O.S., Frank shows his inability to distinguish between the roles of the Shulamite girl and King Solomon from a physical perspective and thus grossly erring from a spiritual perspective. S.O.S. 1:9-11; 6:4-10; 6:13; 7:1-9 display Solomon as a womanizer= A man who habitually flirts with and seduces, or attempts to seduce, women. The Shulamite girl always retorts to Solomon that she is faithful to her Shepherd fiance in verses 6:3 and 7:10 -"I am my beloved's and my beloved is mine". From a spiritual standpoint the Shulamite equates to Israel, the bride of Messiah who then as Scripture points out keeps the commandments and holds fast the testimony of the true Messiah [YAHSHUA] of Yahweh. Therefore the Shepherd who speaks in 1:15; 2:2; 4:1-5; 4:7-15; 5:1; 8:13 depicts the Messiah, Yahshua, whose main teaching is to keep the commandments of the Torah. So who does King Solomon depict spiritually, who is throughout this book attempting to make the Shulamite part of his harem? Satan the devil from a spiritual perspective!!!!!!!!!!! Mark 12:24 And Yahshua יהושע answering, said to them, “Is this not why you go astray, because you do not know the Scriptures nor the power of Elohim. A soft conscious towards Yahweh's word always brings forth teshuva, which means "turn" in Hebrew, turning from the wrong pathway to the correct path in Torah, or some personal behavior that is not walking as Yahshua walked. A reprobate mind is one that will not be reproved by Yahweh's word even in the face of error. Thus the veil over the heart! Delusion 101. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this reason Elohim sends them a working of delusion, for them to believe the falsehood, 12 in order that all should be judged who did not believe the truth [Psalm 119:142= Torah is TRUTH], but have delighted in unrighteousness [Adding to His word= SIN]. - Study and Obey Torah (8/26/2019 6:37:40 PM) “The King is held” – S. of S. 7:5. To be held denotes nearness with a constant and permanent fellowship of love between the King and His bride. In her pursuit of Him she held fast to Him in His Word of promise. Now that His Word is fulfilled in her, He is detained and held. My love to all those who have given their personal thoughts! Thank you. - Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (8/26/2019 6:59:10 AM) King Solomon and the Shulamite have become one!!!! Says Frank Pytel!!! While promoting his booklet on S.O.S., Frank shows his inability to distinguish between the roles of the Shulamite girl and King Solomon from a physical perspective and thus grossly erring from a spiritual perspective. S.O.S. 1:9-11; 6:4-10; 6:13; 7:1-9 display Solomon as a womanizer= A man who habitually flirts with and seduces, or attempts to seduce, women. The Shulamite girl always retorts to Solomon that she is faithful to her Shepherd fiance in verses 6:3 and 7:10 -"I am my beloved's and my beloved is mine". From a spiritual standpoint the Shulamite equates to Israel, the bride of Messiah who then as Scripture points out keeps the commandments and holds fast the testimony of the true Messiah [YAHSHUA] of Yahweh. Therefore the Shepherd who speaks in 1:15; 2:2; 4:1-5; 4:7-15; 5:1; 8:13 depicts the Messiah, Yahshua, whose main teaching is to keep the commandments of the Torah. So who does King Solomon depict spiritually, who is throughout this book attempting to make the Shulamite part of his harem? Satan the devil from a spiritual perspective!!!!!!!!!!! Deuteronomy 4:2“Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard/keep the commands of Yahweh יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you. Proverbs 31:5 Every Word of Eloah is tried/tested; He is a shield to those taking refuge in Him. 6 Do not add to His Words, Lest He reprove you, and you be found a liar. Proverbs 19: 20 Listen to [Yahweh's] counsel and accept [His] discipline, So that you are wise in your latter end. 21 Many are the plans in a man’s heart, But it is the counsel of Yahweh יהוה that stands Revelation 21:27 And there shall by no means enter into it [The Kingdom at the end of the millennium, the new Yahrushalem on this earth] whatever is unclean, neither anyone doing abomination and FALSEHOOD, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life. Rev 21:8 and other places instruct that those participating in works of the flesh will have their life-forces extinguished in the lake of fire! Maybe Frank if I were in your shoes I would turn from my book and cease and desist and learn the more perfect way in Torah faith as Messiah, and humble myself before my King Almighty Yahweh and do teshuva. But that would be my inclination. In your last posting: " With her there are no accidents, no coincidences..... " - ENTER INTO HIS COURTS THIS 7th DAY (8/24/2019 3:21:24 AM) “The King” – S. of S. 7:5. In the Song the revelation of Christ as the King of peace expanded in the loving seeker's heart. This unveiling attracted her to love Him more deeply - be beautified as His bride - reign with Him in life and love. King Solomon and the Shulamite have become one. - Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (8/23/2019 5:54:38 AM) The bride's hair testifies that she knows the Sovereign G-d in His eternal purpose. With her there are no accidents, no coincidences, but a life full of meaning. Frank Pytel's non-biblical commentary! Hear the Word of Yahweh: 1 John 2: 3 And by this we know that we KNOW HIM [Yahweh and Yahshua], if we guard/keep His commands. 4 The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a LIAR, and the TRUTH is not in him. By Frank Pytel's last posting he is implying the notion that Yahweh gives His Spirit/Torah not in the heart; BUT IN THE HAIR! 5 But whoever guards/keeps His Word, truly the LOVE of Yahweh has been perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 6 The one who says he stays in Him ought himself also to walk, even as He walked. How did Messiah Yahshua walk? He walked in the Torah which encapsulates the commandments, statutes and judgments of Yahweh found in Genesis through Deuteronomy. Otherwise he is a sinner!!! How did Yahshua answer Satan in Matthew 4? All three times by Deuteronomy passages! 1 John 5: 2 By this we know that we love the children of Elohim, when we love Elohim and guard/keep His commands. 3 For this is the LOVE for [Yahweh] Elohim, that we guard/keep His commands, and His commands are not heavy/burdensome, Psalm 111:10 The fear of Yahweh יהוה is the beginning of wisdom, All those doing them [HIS COMMANDS] have a good understanding. His praise is standing forever. HAIR alone will not lead to a meaningful life, nor eternal life as Yahweh's servant, nor Messiah Yahshua's! Matthew 19: 16 And see, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good shall I do to have everlasting life?” 17 And He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One – Elohim. But if you wish to enter into life, GUARD/KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS [Nothing here about hair!] - Love of Yahweh (8/21/2019 7:57:57 PM) “Hair” – S. of S. 7:5. “Our hairs are all numbered” – Matt. 10:30. The Sovereign God knows every detail of our life. The bride's hair testifies that she knows the Sovereign God in His eternal purpose. With her there are no accidents, no coincidences, but a life full of meaning. - Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (8/21/2019 6:05:28 AM) No Nazarites under the renewed covenant under Mashiyach Yahshua. That is a Melchizedekian priesthood not Aaronic. Although the status of the nazarite had the same level of separation as a high priest in some instances; that priesthood would be Aaronic. Entering the covenant is akin and expected separation from worldly behavior, false teachings and obedience to Torah. Psalm 73:28 But as for me, it is good to be NEAR Elohim. I have made my refuge in the Master Yahweh יהוה, To declare all Your works. Jeremiah 30: 21‘And his Prince shall be from him, and his Ruler shall come from among him. And I shall bring him NEAR, and he shall approach Me, for who is this who pledged his heart to approach Me?’ declares Yahweh יהוה. Jacob/James 4:8 DRAW NEAR to Elohim and He shall draw near to you. Because that is the only way Yahweh makes a covenant with Israel is through Genesis-Deuteronomy. Under the so called "new" covenant there can not be a functioning Aaronic priesthood (Hebrews 7: 11-12) and there is no physical temple standing, so as to make the required nazarite offerings per Numbers 6:13-21 either. So a Nazarene/Spiritual Israelite under Yahshua could not be a nazarite! So a man should bring his scalp hair under the scissors so as to look male as per 1 Corinthians 11: 14 Does not nature itself teach you that if a man indeed has long hair, it is a disrespect to him? - Love of Yahweh (8/20/2019 6:15:52 PM) Newest User Posted Comment on Song of Songs 7:5 “Hair” – S. of S. 7:5. The hair of the bride was as Samson’s, whose strength was in his locks. In loving consecration to Christ, her submission to the Will of God, and her separation from the evil world system of religion and vanity, she pleased the Beloved with the Nazarite vow. - Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (8/20/2019 4:34:25 AM) Romanticizing the Scriptures is not reverence Frank, but your own vanity. Psalm 40:8 Yahweh's will is Torah. Not my words but His! The hair was the Shulamite girl's not Sampson's literally! Dangerous game being played adding your words to His as though Scripture. S.o S. 7:5 Your head upon you is like Mount Karmel, And the hair of your head like purple; The sovereign is held captive by the ringlets. Frank you are no Rashi! - Love of Yahweh (8/20/2019 5:52:51 AM) “Hair” – S. of S. 7:5. The hair of the bride was as Samson’s, whose strength was in his locks. In loving consecration to Christ, her submission to the Will of God, and her separation from the evil world system of religion and vanity, she pleased the Beloved with the Nazarite vow. - Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (8/20/2019 4:34:25 AM) “Your hair” – S. of S. 7:5. The bride's hair flows down as hanging tresses. “The hair of a woman is her glory”, yet her hair flows down in humility. She realizes that all she has is from the Beloved Christ. Nothing we possess can be attributed to ourselves, but all to His glory. - Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (8/18/2019 5:09:48 AM) In S. of S. 7:1-5, the bride's tenfold beauty is unveiled from her feet up to her hair. Her life without Christ was “from the sole of her foot to the top of her head without soundness – only wounds, welts and sores” (Isa. 1:6). Union with Him will change and beautify our life. - Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (8/17/2019 4:36:30 AM) Psalm 119: 1 Blessed are the perfect in the way, Who walk in the Torah of Yahweh יהוה! 2 Blessed are those who observe His witnesses, Who seek Him with all the heart! Proverbs 6:23 For the commandment is a lamp, And the Torah a light, And reproofs of discipline a way of life,..... John 1: 9 He was the true Light, which enlightens every man, coming into the world. Matthew 1: 21“And she shall give birth to a Son, and you shall call His Name YAH-SHUA יהושע for He (Yahweh) shall save His people from their sins.” Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Torah or the Prophets, I did not come to destroy but to complete. 18 “For truly, I say to you, till the heaven and the earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall by no means pass from the Torah till all be done. 19“Whoever, then, breaks one of the least of these commands, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the reign of the heavens; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the reign of the heavens. ◄ Psalm 1 ► The Scriptures (ISR 1998) 1 Blessed is the man who shall not walk in the counsel of the wrong, And shall not stand in the path of sinners, And shall not sit in the seat of scoffers, 2 But his delight is in the Torah of יהוה, And he meditates in His Torah day and night. 3 For he shall be as a tree Planted by the rivers of water, That yields its fruit in its season, And whose leaf does not wither, And whatever he does prospers. 4 The wrong are not so, But are like the chaff which the wind blows away. 5 Therefore the wrong shall not rise in the judgment, Nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. 6 For Yahweh יהוה knows the way of the righteous, But the way of the wrong comes to naught. - Mike Gardner (8/16/2019 5:33:27 AM) “Head as Carmel” – S. of S. 7:5. The bride’s head bears the characteristic of Carmel. At Carmel the prophet Elijah proved God's power and put to death the lie-speaking prophets of Baal. Every dark lie has been put out of her head, and her mind is filled with the light of God. - Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (8/16/2019 4:24:46 AM) Tammuz, the second member of the pagan Babylonian Trinity, the incarnation of g-d in the flesh, is the false messiah of the religion created by Semiramis (the Whore mentioned in Revelation). YHWH has commanded us (His people) to “come out of her” and cease prostituting out the worship of the ONE true Elohim to others. The symbol of “the son of The lord god Baal” in the pagan religion of Babylon was a cross. It is called The Cross of Tammuz. This cross was worn on the head dresses of the Babylonians and breastplates of priests and warriors alike in honor of Tammuz. The cross was a representation of “T” in Tammuz and his symbol “x”. The cross is a tradition of the Church which our fathers have inherited was the adoption of the words "cross" and "crucify". These words are nowhere to be found in the Greek versions of the New Testament. These words are mistranslations, a "later rendering", of the Greek words stauros and stauroo. Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words says, "STAUROS denotes, primarily, an upright pole or stake ... Both the noun and the verb stauroo, to fasten to a stake or pole, are originally to be distinguished from the ecclesiastical form of a two-beamed cross. The shape of the latter had its origin in ancient Chaldea (Babylon), and was used as the symbol of the god Tammuz (being in the shape of the mystic Tau, the initial of his name) ... By the middle of the 3rd century A.D. at the Council of Nicea the churches had either departed from, or had travestied, certain doctrines of The Faith found in The Bible. In order to increase the prestige of the apostate ecclesiastical system (known as Christianity) pagans were received into the churches apart from regeneration by faith, and were permitted largely to retain their pagan signs and symbols. Hence the Tau or T, in its most frequent form, with the cross piece lowered, was adopted and to this day remains the “symbol” of Jesus (Tammuz) or the X. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christogram The most commonly encountered Christogram in English-speaking countries in modern times is the X (or more accurately, Greek letter chi) in the abbreviation Xmas (for "Christmas"), which represents the first letter of the word Chr-st. Jesus being an “image” of Tammuz in name, birthday, death/resurrection celebrations and mother/child representations. I cover this in detail in this book series. http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/mysteryreligion/TheCrossofTammuz.htm - Mike Gardner (8/15/2019 5:15:25 AM) “Head like Carmel” – S. of S. 7:5. The bride’s head is like “Carmel”, a crimson, strong red color inclining to purple. She knows the red blood of Jesus’ cross with the royal purple color of His throne. The supreme thought of her head is the crucified and exalted Lamb of God. Thanks to all for their thoughts! - Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (8/15/2019 4:37:18 AM) Many of those using the Name of their Creator in the Tetragrammaton, Yahweh, in the spring (At the Feast of Unleavened Bread) read from Jewish tradition, the Song of Shelomoh (King Solomon) or as it is in most bibles Song of Songs as the first verse establishes it. The Scriptures (ISR 1998) 1 The song of songs, which is Shelomoh’s. The previous posting by an unknown individual is more of a biblical proper interpretation of the book by a popular rabbi, Rashi, from nominal Judaism who lived around the year 1,000 C.E. in France. He wrote his allegorical interpretation of the Song of Songs based entirely off the Torah of Scripture relating that with the book comparing the relationship of Israel through the ages to their Creator, the great King of Kings, our Father in Heaven. Judaism, who does not generally recognize the Latter Writings (Called by Christology, "The New Testament") does not make the more exact comparison with the Shepherd boy paralleling Messiah, Yahshua and the Shulamite girl with the saints [EXCLUDING CHRISTOLOGY'S SAINTS] of Israel, the 144,000 named in Scripture starting with the pre flood era through Abraham, Moses, Messiah to today's era awhile in the land of Israel and through their exiles. Those believing in Christology's "New Israel" doctrine will not come to this conclusion is understood. The frequent excerpt postings by Frank Pytel, who is attempting to sell his book, "The Two Became One", on this Scriptural book, the Song of Songs from a personal interpretative viewpoint. Differing from Rashi, does not make entirely Scriptural comparisons but ones out of his own heart and mind based off Christology. We should all fear how we handle Yahweh's word! While personally I don't subscribe to everything Rashi states, his comparisons are Torah based and scriptural, connecting much to Judaism proper. Much may be accurate in this assessment, but Scripture does not support this viewpoint especially upholding everything in Talmud as Set Apart scripture. 2 Peter 1: 16 For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we made known to you the power and coming of our Master יהושע Messiah, but were eye-witnesses of His superb-ness. 17 For when He received respect and esteem from Elohim the Father, such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Esteem, “This is My Son, the Beloved in whom I did delight.” 18 And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the set-apart mountain. 19 And we have the prophetic word made more certain, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy (Foretelling and teachings) of Scripture came to be of ONE'S OWN [PRIVATE] INTERPRETATION 21 for prophecy never came by the desire of man, but men of Elohim spoke, being moved by the Set-apart Spirit. Some may not have known this, so I thought this needed to be said. - Mike Gardner (8/14/2019 4:50:06 AM) Your head upon you is like Carmel: These are the tephillin [phylacteries] of the head, about which it is said (Deut. 28: 10): “And all the peoples of the world will see that the name of the Lord is called upon you, and they will fear you.” That is their strength and their fear, like a rock of the mountains, and the Carmel is the most prominent of the mountains. and the braided locks of your head: The braided hair of your Nazirites are as beautiful with commandments as braided purple [ropes]. and the braided locks of your head: Heb. וְדַלַת רֹאשֵּׁ, because the braid is lifted up (מֻדְלֵת) on the highest part of the head. the king is bound in the tresses: The name of the Omnipresent is bound in the locks, as is stated (Num. 6:7): “The crown of his God is on his head.” - Rashi (8/13/2019 1:55:42 AM) [qBible.com] Proverbs 6: 16 These six matters יהוה hates, And seven are an abomination to Him: 17 A proud look, A LYING tongue, And hands shedding innocent blood, 18 A heart devising wicked schemes, Feet quick to run to evil, 19 A false witness breathing out LIES And one who causes strife among brothers. 20 My son, watch over your father’s command, And do not forsake the Torah of your mother. 21 Bind them on your heart always; Tie them around your neck. 22 When you are walking about, it leads you; When you lie down, it guards you. And when you have woken up, It talks to you. 23 For the command is a lamp, And the Torah [= Genesis through Deuteronomy] a LIGHT, And reproofs of discipline a way of life, 24 To guard you against an evil woman, From the flattering tongue of a strange woman [= #5237 נָכְרִי nokriy {nok-ree'}= foreign woman/religion to Israel]. 25 Do not desire her prettiness in your heart, Neither let her captivate you with her eyelids. 26 For because of a whore [Of Babylon= BILLIONS OF ADHERENTS] One is brought to a crust of bread. And an adulteress hunts a precious life. Psalms 119: 105 Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path. Context is Torah. 119:1 Blessed are the perfect in the way, Who walk in the Torah of יהוה! Hosea 6: 5 “Therefore I have hewn them by the prophets, I have slain them by the words of My mouth. And my right-rulings break forth as the LIGHT. GENESIS THROUGH DEUTERONOMY IS SPIRITUAL LIGHT AS PROVEN THROUGH 3 WITNESSES! Hebrews 8: 6 But now He has obtained a more excellent service, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was constituted on better promises. 7 For if that first covenant [AGREEMENT BETWEEN TWO PARTIES] had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 For finding fault with THEM [= HUMAN BEINGS], He says, “See, the days are coming,” says יהוה, “when I shall conclude with the house of Yisra’ĕl and with the house of Yahuḏah a renewed covenant, 9 not according to the covenant [ AGREEMENT BETWEEN TWO PARTIES] that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Mitsrayim, because they did not continue in My covenant [= TORAH and the general congregation did not have the SPIRIT/Law in their hearts!], and I disregarded them,” says יהוה. 10“Because this is the covenant that I shall make with the house of Yisra’ĕl after those days, says יהוה, giving MY LAWS IN THEIR MINDS [Is This Not What is Contrary to What Nominal RELIGION Teaches?], and I shall write them on their hearts, and I shall be their Elohim, and they shall be My people. 11“And they shall by no means teach each one his neighbor, and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know יהוה,’ because they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. 12“Because I shall forgive their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawlessnesses I shall no longer remember.” Romans 8: 6 For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace. 7 Because the mind of the flesh is enmity towards Elohim, for it does not subject itself to the Torah of Elohim [SO THE MIND OF THE FLESH IS OPPOSED TO BIBLICAL LAW], neither indeed is it able, 8 and those who are in the flesh [OPPOSED TO THE BIBLICAL LAW] are unable to please Elohim. 9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of Yahweh dwells in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Messiah [BIBLICAL LAW MINDEDNESS], this one [IN THE FLESH, OPPOSED TO BIBLICAL LAW] is not His [= NOT OF THE TRUE MESSIAH!, = NOT OF THE TRUE MESSIAH!]. 1 Samuel 15: 23“For rebellion is as the sin of divination, and stubbornness is as wickedness and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of Yahweh יהוה [The words of the Word made Flesh], He also does reject you as sovereign [In our era akin to royalty that would be our reward in the kingdom].” Song of Solomon's Shulamite girl is akin to the bride of Messiah, Spiritual Israel. The Law states the Messiah as High Priest must marry an Israelite [Lev. 21:13-14]. True Messiah of Jewish descent [Hebrews 7:14], not a Grecian one as the translation "Christos" in most bibles. Prove all things and certainly not fall for the words of the foreign harlot woman of Babylon who says Proverbs 7:14 “Peace offerings are with me; Today I have paid my vows". - Mike Gardner (8/12/2019 8:31:47 PM) “Your head” – S. of S. 7:5. The bride’s head is marked by spiritual light with increased revelations of the exalted Christ. In the past, her head was under His left hand as a pillow, as He supported and sustained her by the power of His love (2:6). She gazed upward, looking only into His face of glory! - Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (8/12/2019 6:22:56 PM) “Your head” – S. of S. 7:5. Christ values the bride’s head as the part that rules her form and keeps all her beauty in harmony. In union with Him she knows His divine headship and His supreme thoughts in the eternal counsel of God’s Will. Though living in time, her mind is governed by eternity. - Frank Pytel, "The Two Become One" (8/9/2019 5:24:22 PM) Expand Comments for Song of Songs 7:5.![]() Expand Cross References for Song of Songs 7:5. |