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Romans 3:4 [study!]

American Standard Version (ASV 1901) [2]
— God forbid: yea, let God be found true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy words, And mightest prevail when thou comest into judgment.
King James Version (KJV 1769)
— God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
New American Standard Bible (NASB ©1995)
— May it never be! Rather, let God be found true, though every man [be found] a liar, as it is written, “THAT YOU MAY BE JUSTIFIED IN YOUR WORDS, AND PREVAIL WHEN YOU ARE JUDGED.”
Webster's Revision of the KJB (WEB 1833)
— By no means: verily let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mayest be justified in thy sayings, and mayest overcome when thou art judged.
Darby's Translation (DBY 1890)
— Far be the thought: but let God be true, and every man false; according as it is written, So that thou shouldest be justified in thy words, and shouldest overcome when thou art in judgment.
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (EBR 1902)
— Far be it! But let, God, prove to be, true, albeit, every man, be false! Even as it is written—That thou mightest be declared righteous in thy words, and overcome when thou art in judgment.
Young's Literal Translation (YLT 1898)
— let it not be! and let God become true, and every man false, according as it hath been written, 'That Thou mayest be declared righteous in Thy words, and mayest overcome in Thy being judged.'
Douay-Rheims Challoner Revision (DR 1750)
— But God is true and every man a liar, as it is written: That thou mayest be justified in thy words and mayest overcome when thou art judged.
Original King James Bible (AV 1611) [2]
— God forbid: yea, let God be true, but euery man a lier, as it is written, That thou mightest be iustified in thy sayings, and mightest ouercome when thou art iudged.
John Etheridge Peshitta-Aramaic NT (1849)
— Not so: for Aloha is true, and every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mayest be just in thy words, And triumph when they judge thee.
James Murdock Peshitta-Aramaic NT (1852)
— Far be it: for God is veracious, and every man false: as it is written: That thou mightest be upright, in thy declarations; and be found pure, when they judge thee.

Strong's Numbers & Red-LettersGreek New TestamentColor-Code/Key Word Studies
God forbid: 3361
{3361} Prime
μή
me
{may}
A primary particle of qualified negation (whereas G3756 expresses an absolute denial); (adverbially) not, (conjugationally) lest; also (as interrogitive implying a negative answer [whereas G3756 expects an affirmative one]); whether.
1096
{1096} Prime
γίνομαι
ginomai
{ghin'-om-ahee}
A prolonged and middle form of a primary verb; to cause to be ('gen' -erate), that is, (reflexively) to become (come into being), used with great latitude (literally, figuratively, intensively, etc.).
z5636
<5636> Grammar
Tense - Second Aorist (See G5780)
Voice - Middle Deponent (See G5788)
Mood - Optative (See G5793)
Count - 18
yea, y1161
[1161] Standard
δέ
de
{deh}
A primary particle (adversative or continuative); but, and, etc.
let y1096
[1096] Standard
γίνομαι
ginomai
{ghin'-om-ahee}
A prolonged and middle form of a primary verb; to cause to be ('gen' -erate), that is, (reflexively) to become (come into being), used with great latitude (literally, figuratively, intensively, etc.).
z0
<0000> Grammar
The original word in the Greek or Hebrew is translated by more than one word in the English. The English translation is separated by one or more other words from the original.
God 2316
{2316} Prime
θεός
theos
{theh'-os}
Of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with G3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively a magistrate; by Hebraism very.
be 1096
{1096} Prime
γίνομαι
ginomai
{ghin'-om-ahee}
A prolonged and middle form of a primary verb; to cause to be ('gen' -erate), that is, (reflexively) to become (come into being), used with great latitude (literally, figuratively, intensively, etc.).
z5737
<5737> Grammar
Tense - Present (See G5774)
Voice - Middle or Passive Deponent (See G5790)
Mood - Imperative (See G5794)
Count - 152
true, 227
{0227} Prime
ἀληθής
alethes
{al-ay-thace'}
From G0001 (as a negative particle) and G2990; true (as not concealing).
but 1161
{1161} Prime
δέ
de
{deh}
A primary particle (adversative or continuative); but, and, etc.
every 3956
{3956} Prime
πᾶς
pas
{pas}
Including all the forms of declension; apparently a primary word; all, any, every, the whole.
man 444
{0444} Prime
ἄνθρωπος
anthropos
{anth'-ro-pos}
From G0435 and ὤψ [[ops]] (the countenance; from G3700); manfaced, that is, a human being.
a liar; 5583
{5583} Prime
ψεύστης
pseustes
{psyoos-tace'}
From G5574; a falsifier.
as 2531
{2531} Prime
καθώς
kathos
{kath-oce'}
From G2596 and G5613; just (or inasmuch) as, that.
it is written, 1125
{1125} Prime
γράφω
grapho
{graf'-o}
A primary verb; to 'grave', especially to write; figuratively to describe.
z5769
<5769> Grammar
Tense - Perfect (See G5778)
Voice - Passive (See G5786)
Mood - Indicative (See G5791)
Count - 215
That 3704
{3704} Prime
ὅπως
hopos
{hop'-oce}
From G3739 and G4459; what (-ever) how, that is, in the manner that (as adverb or conjugation of coincidence, intentional or actual).
thou mightest y302
[0302] Standard
ἄν
an
{an}
A primary particle, denoting a supposition, wish, possibility or uncertainty.
be justified 1344
{1344} Prime
δικαιόω
dikaioo
{dik-ah-yo'-o}
From G1342; to render (that is, show or regard as) just or innocent.
z5686
<5686> Grammar
Tense - Aorist (See G5777)
Voice - Passive (See G5786)
Mood - Subjunctive (See G5792)
Count - 219
x302
(0302) Complement
ἄν
an
{an}
A primary particle, denoting a supposition, wish, possibility or uncertainty.
in 1722
{1722} Prime
ἐν
en
{en}
A primary preposition denoting (fixed) position (in place, time or state), and (by implication) instrumentality (medially or constructively), that is, a relation of rest (intermediate between G1519 and G1537); 'in', at, (up-) on, by, etc.
thy 4675
{4675} Prime
σοῦ
sou
{soo}
Genitive case of G4771; of thee, thy.
sayings, 3056
{3056} Prime
λόγος
logos
{log'-os}
From G3004; something said (including the thought); by implication a topic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; by extension a computation; specifically (with the article in John) the Divine Expression (that is, Christ).
and 2532
{2532} Prime
καί
kai
{kahee}
Apparently a primary particle, having a copulative and sometimes also a cumulative force; and, also, even, so, then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words.
mightest overcome 3528
{3528} Prime
νικάω
nikao
{nik-ah'-o}
From G3529; to subdue (literally or figuratively).
z5661
<5661> Grammar
Tense - Aorist (See G5777)
Voice - Active (See G5784)
Mood - Subjunctive (See G5792)
Count - 512
when y1722
[1722] Standard
ἐν
en
{en}
A primary preposition denoting (fixed) position (in place, time or state), and (by implication) instrumentality (medially or constructively), that is, a relation of rest (intermediate between G1519 and G1537); 'in', at, (up-) on, by, etc.
thou 4571
{4571} Prime
σέ
se
{seh}
Accusative singular of G4771; thee.
art judged. 2919
{2919} Prime
κρίνω
krino
{kree'-no}
Properly to distinguish, that is, decide (mentally or judicially); by implication to try, condemn, punish.
z5745
<5745> Grammar
Tense - Present (See G5774)
Voice - Passive (See G5786)
Mood - Infinitive (See G5795)
Count - 105
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary

See commentary on Romans 3:3-4.


Romans 3:4

_ _ God forbid — literally, “Let it not be,” that is, “Away with such a thought” — a favorite expression of our apostle, when he would not only repudiate a supposed consequence of his doctrine, but express his abhorrence of it. “The Scriptures do not authorize such a use of God’s name as must have been common among the English translators of the Bible” [Hodge].

_ _ yea, let God be — held

_ _ true, and every man a liar — that is, even though it should follow from this that every man is a liar.

_ _ when thou art judged — so in Psalms 51:4, according to the Septuagint; but in the Hebrew and in our version, “when thou judgest.” The general sentiment, however, is the same in both — that we are to vindicate the righteousness of God, at whatever expense to ourselves.

Matthew Henry's Commentary

See commentary on Romans 3:1-18.

John Wesley's Explanatory Notes

Romans 3:4

Psalms 2:4.

Geneva Bible Translation Notes

Romans 3:4

God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be (e) justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome (f) when thou art judged.

(e) That your justice might be plainly seen.

(f) Seeing that you showed forth an true token of your righteousness, steadfastness and faith, by preserving him who had broken his covenant.

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God forbid:

Romans 3:6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?
Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Romans 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Romans 7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
Romans 9:14 What shall we say then? [Is there] unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
Romans 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, [of] the tribe of Benjamin.
Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but [rather] through their fall salvation [is come] unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
Luke 20:16 He shall come and destroy these husbandmen, and shall give the vineyard to others. And when they heard [it], they said, God forbid.
1 Corinthians 6:15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make [them] the members of an harlot? God forbid.
Galatians 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, [is] therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
Galatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness [come] by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Galatians 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

let God:

Deuteronomy 32:4 [He is] the Rock, his work [is] perfect: for all his ways [are] judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right [is] he.
Job 40:8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?
Psalms 100:5 For the LORD [is] good; his mercy [is] everlasting; and his truth [endureth] to all generations.
Psalms 119:160 Thy word [is] true [from] the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments [endureth] for ever.
Psalms 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
Micah 7:20 Thou wilt perform the truth to Jacob, [and] the mercy to Abraham, which thou hast sworn unto our fathers from the days of old.
John 3:33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
2 Corinthians 1:18 But [as] God [is] true, our word toward you was not yea and nay.
Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
Hebrews 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which [it was] impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Revelation 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

but every:

Psalms 62:9 Surely men of low degree [are] vanity, [and] men of high degree [are] a lie: to be laid in the balance, they [are] altogether [lighter] than vanity.
Psalms 116:11 I said in my haste, All men [are] liars.

That thou:

Job 36:3 I will fetch my knowledge from afar, and will ascribe righteousness to my Maker.
Psalms 51:4 Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done [this] evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, [and] be clear when thou judgest.
Matthew 11:19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
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Dt 32:4. Jb 36:3; 40:8. Ps 51:4; 62:9; 100:5; 116:11; 119:160; 138:2. Mi 7:20. Mt 11:19. Lk 20:16. Jn 3:33. Ro 3:6, 31; 6:2, 15; 7:7, 13; 9:14; 11:1, 11. 1Co 6:15. 2Co 1:18. Ga 2:17, 21; 6:14. Tit 1:2. He 6:18. 1Jn 5:10, 20. Rv 3:7.

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Elohm is truth and his word is truth. Rom.3;4.john 1;17,17;17.Elohim can,t lie titus. 1;2. Who does Ruach Qa Desh say are liars? Every man is a liar. That teaches any different doctrines from Elohims word. Is a liar. Prov. 30;1-4.Matt. 10;26.
Who is the father of lies. John 8;44;45?
Who are Shatan companion in lying gog of magog. Rev.20;7-9.
What are their lies? Easter is the creator son resurrection day.
a. Yes, The Holy one's son Emmanuel rised but Elohim word never called it easter.1cor.15;1-4.
b. Shatan and Gog of magog teaches this lie. For generation after generation .
c. They called it a holiday, just like christmas,thanksgiving.
They teach these liars in;
a.Roman catholic, Church of christ and all protestant
b.Some protestant has tried to rejected easter and christmas.The power of peer pressure and lie-loving wives and daugther. Psa.58;1-6,
c.Natural wives and women are the main subjective to carry lies 1cor.2;12-16.She controls what the man and children are inoculation in, 99% of all american household. Most men has no clue of her Power. Prov.2;16-19,5;1-14,eccl.7;26-29.
If she can't control the man with coitus and her natural wisdom . You can,t have her in your assenter natural,lie-lover,deaf-adder lifestyle.

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