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Devarim 13: 1“When there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he shall give you a sign or a wonder, 2 and the sign or the wonder shall come true, of which he has spoken to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other mighty ones – which you have not known – and serve them,’ 3 do not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for יהוה your Elohim is trying you to know whether you love יהוה your Elohim with all your heart and with all your being. 4“Walk after יהוה your Elohim and fear Him, and guard His commands and obey His voice, and serve Him and cling to Him. (This is the test come true, if the dream aligns with the Written Torah and Sound Doctrine! Not whether the dream comes to pass; many fall for this fallacy! Then and then alone does one know if the dream is from Yahweh or not) Two doctrines I know are not valid when compared with Scripture and Torah is : 1.) The eternal ethereal soul of man Doctrine that comes from the nations, not Yahweh! In Hebrew soul is translated "nefesh" . It simply only means a living or dead being, man or beast/creature. ISR Translation- Genesis 1: 24 And Elohim said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: livestock and creeping creatures and beasts of the earth, according to its kind.” And it came to be so. Darby Bible Translation And G-d said, Let the earth bring forth living souls after their kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth, after their kind. And it was so. It can die! Ezekiel 18:4“See, all beings (KJV says "soul") are Mine, the being (KJV says "soul") of the father as well as the being (KJV says "soul") of the son is Mine. The being (KJV says "soul") that is sinning shall die. 20“The being (KJV says "soul") who sins shall die. The scripturally correct translation for the word nephesh should be "being", "person", "creature", etc... The word soul relates back to the Egyptian doctrine of the "ba" and the "ka". The "you" and the "you that is inside of you". Theologians should be ashamed to have allowed this doctrine of the soul to perpetuate, since most understand it to be in error. Many will go to Revelation to assert the soul doctrine, yet that is visionary not always literally occurring in the present, the context proves it so generally. and simply means lives, life or being! 2.) After death one goes to heaven Man's domain is always in scripture to be on Terra Firma, EARTH! The prophets state it. Only exception is for the saints to greet Yahshua in the air at his arrival and return back to the earth. Also, Eliyah NEVER went to heaven-Yahweh's throne room!!!! The passage should have read he was taken up into the skies by the chariots of Yahweh for his own protection. Years later scripture states he was rebuking one of the Judean kings for their sins! (2 Chronicles 21:12) Heaven is not the inheritance of the saints! Both spurious, but believed by billions! - Shabbath Shalom (9/28/2019 1:50:52 AM) What a person believes or sees physically can effect dreams; the flesh is a trickster. I am not stating Nathan is lying at all. I believed he saw that in vision. But the true proof of a dream ma'am is whether it aligns with Torah as the passage below states and elsewhere. If I prove to you that you are in error will you accept it? By the way, I am not contesting all your algorithms and calculations; that is your conclusions. My faith is simplistic. Believe in the TaNaK and Mashiyach Yahshua and the Latter Writings must corroborate the former. If you are a worshiper of Yahweh Elohim, I don't believe it is a coincidence that we have crossed paths; from a spiritual standpoint only I say this. We can disagree on prophesy; no biggie. Your format of scriptural passages I can concur with for the most part because they are similar to the conclusions I was taught in assembly as well as others years ago. But core doctrines we should all be on the same page with the Majesty on High. I have been doing this for 21 years and I don't say things I cannot proof text with the witnesses from Scripture. We will all be held accountable for our doctrines as well as our personal behavior; as surely you are aware. We must all come to Yahweh as a child. Matthew 18: 1 At that time the taught ones came to יהושע, saying, “Who, then, is greatest in the reign of the heavens?” 2 And יהושע called a little child to Him, set him in their midst, 3 and said, “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become as little children, you shall by no means enter into the reign of the heavens. 4“Whoever then humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the reign of the heavens. Isaiah 8: 16 Bind up the witness, seal the Torah among my taught ones. 20 To the Torah and to the witness! If they do not speak according to this Word, it is because they have no daybreak/enlightenment Shalom, shalom - Study and Obey Torah (9/26/2019 10:25:56 AM) I unable answer this, but I do know that Natan's testimony is accurate. Natan would not lie. Barack Hussein Obama is in fact Gog, prophesied in Ezekiel 39:11. I am still studying what will happen during the Great Tribulation, when the Mark of the Beast is forced on people left behind, following the rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18). I am not sure exactly how the anti Mashiyach will enter the 3rd temple, but it is clear Natan died on the 4th lunar eclipse on the 15th of Tishrei of 5775 of the lunar eclipse tetrad for 15 minutes and was in fact told by Father Yahweh that Barack Obama is Gog of Ezekiel 39:11, and that the war already began on the 27th of Elul of 5775. What Yahweh showed me is that if you take 2,520 days, or 7 Biblical Years, and add it to this date of 27 Elul 5775 you do come to 7 Av of 5782, which is the day Barack Hussein Obama turns 61 years of age, his 61st birthday. This cannot be a coincidence knowing that the DOW dropped 777.68 points on 29 Elul 5768, just a few short weeks before Obama won the elections on the 6th of Cheshvan of 5769. The very next day, on the 7th of Cheshvan 5769, the Illinois state lottery winning numbers were 666 and 7779, which can't be a coincidence either. I am not going to argue with someone who is in a state of denial about the identity of the anti Mashiyach, but it is clear the Ruach HaKodesh does guide true believers into ALL Truth, and shows them things to come, as mentioned in John 16:13. I will not be responding to people who are wanting to argue and stir up strife and envy on the identity of the anti Mashiyach, but it is clear Daniel did prophesy in Daniel 11:37 that the anti Mashiyach would be homosexual, the anti Mashiyach of Revelation 13:15-18. Blessings. https://youtu.be/-H0MDGIXZ0o - Julia Gombar Seko (9/26/2019 9:08:44 AM) Bemidbar 18: 1 And Yahweh יהוה said to Aharon, “You and your sons and your father’s house with you are to bear the crookedness against the set-apart place, and you and your sons with you are to bear the crookedness against your priesthood. 2“But bring with you your brothers of the tribe of Lĕwi too, the tribe of your father to join you and serve you while you and your sons are with you before the Tent of the Witness. 3“And they shall guard your charge, and the duty of all the Tent, but they do not come near the furnishings of the set-apart place and the altar, lest they die, both they and you. 4“And they shall be joined with you and guard the duty to the Tent of Meeting, for all the service of the Tent, BUT A STRANGER/RUWR #2114 DOES NOT COME NEAR YOU. (Same mitzvah intact during Solomon's and Roman era as well. https://www.timesofisrael.com/ancient-temple-mount-warning-stone-is-closest-thing-we-have-to-the-temple/) 5“And you shall guard the duty of the set-apart place and the duty of the altar, so that there be no more wrath on the children of Yisra’ĕl. Torah passage that allows a gentile leader (Other than a Jew) to enter the Hekel, as you acclaim that will fulfill 2 Thess. 2 and Dan. 11? Thank you. I will wait for your reply when you can find the passage. Gematria notwithstanding. - Study and Obey Torah (9/26/2019 1:24:37 AM) So sorry, This is the corrected version: I find it quite interesting that the man of sin, who will go into perdition during the great tribulation period, is prophesied in Daniel chapter 11, in verse 37 for not having any desire for women. This makes very clear the anti Mashiyach is homosexual, a modern day Sodomite in violation of Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:27 which makes clear anyone who is not heterosexual will not inherit the Kingdom of Elohim. I believe Strong's Concordance is very accurate in determining that the 8th King, who will go into perdition, is the same entity as the son of perdition Paul prophesied about in 2 Thessalonians 2:3: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called G-d, or that is worshipped; so that he as G-d sitteth in the temple of G-d, shewing himself that he is Elohim. https://youtu.be/-H0MDGIXZ0o Coincidence is not a Kosher word. And the above testimony giving by Natan, proves that Gog is in fact the anti Mashiyach prophesied in Revelation 13:15-18, the 8th King who will go into perdition at the end of the age of grace, when the great tribulation transpires. Natan was taken to heaven when he temporarily died on the 15th of Tishrei in 5776, when the last lunar eclipse occurred of the lunar eclipse tetrad. He was told by Father YHWH that Barack Obama is Gog prophesied in Ezekiel 39:11. Ezekiel prophesied about the anti Mashiyach, whom he refers to as Gog, who started the Gog and Magog war during his term in office from 5769 to Tevet of 5777. When calculating gematria in the simple format, We can see that Revelation 17:10-11 speaks of 5 kings, who I believe are James Earl Carter Junior, Ronald Wilson Reagan, George Herbert Walker Bush, William Jefferson Clinton and George W. Bush. They all failed to part the land of Israel, which, when it is parted, will fulfill Joel 3:1,2 and 1 Thessalonians 5:3. The 6th King was Barack Hussein Obama when he reigned from 5769 to Tevet of 5777. Donald John Trump does continue a short space and at the beginning of the Tribulation period, the Antichrist will be revealed as the 8th King. It cannot be a coincidence that Malik Obama prophesied about Michael LaVaughn Robinson, the husband of Barack Hussein Obama. This I believe lines up with what Daniel prophesied about in Daniel 11:37. When calculating the simple gematria of all 7 Kings from Carter to Obama, we see that James Earl Carter Junior in simple gematria is 236, Ronald Wilson Reagan in simple gematria is 202, George Herbert Walker Bush in simple gematria is 253, William Jefferson Clinton is 264, George Herbert Walker Bush in simple gematria is 177, Barack Hussein Obama in simple gematria is 163 and Donald John Trump in simple gematria is 185. When adding all of the simple gematrias of these 7 Kings John prophesied about after receiving the prophetic dream on the Isle of Patmos, we come to a total of: 236 + 202 + 253 + 264 + 177 + 163 + 185 = 1480. When 1480 is divided by 33, which is significant because all of these Presidents are 33 degree Luciferian Free Masons, we get 1480 / 33 = 44.84848484848484... It can't be a coincidence that Barack Obama was the 44th President of the United States, and was born on the pagan Gregorian Calendar on August 4th in the Gregorian Year of 1961, which is the 8th Gregorian Month, the 4th Day of this month. - Julia Gombar Seko (9/25/2019 5:14:52 AM) Many presidents of the US and world leaders and captains of industry worldwide, have been visitors to Bohemian Grove since the Progressive Era, since the beginning of the 20th century which is just outside of San Francisco, CA. Richard Nixon remarked about the homosexual population that was present there and how repugnant that was! I agree with the connection between Dan. 11 and Thess. 2 and Rev 17 as far as an Anti Mashiyach passage. Rev 13 the beast coming out of the earth having 2 horns alluding to the House of Yahudah and its 2 tribes can also be parallel scripture to the 3 previously mentioned, however there are even more within the TaNaK. Why are you reading Grecian based terms such as Anti Christ? I consider myself an anti Christ, Never an anti Mashiyach! Especially since I see that you are careful to hyphenate pagan based transliterations such as G-d (Yahweh never relates to Himself as G-d is a fact; always Elohim or El or an Aramaic equivalent. G-d is the mighty one of the nations and an epithetic title of haSatan) and appear to have a bent towards Hebrew. From my understanding of Scripture it is clear that the anti Mashiyach will proceed out of the tribe of Yahudah; just as the true Mashiyach, Yahshua did. He likely will be more secular than religious. Yet Jewish none the less. He will be permitted inside the temple speaks for itself. Possibly as Dan 11 states a homosexual. Daniel 9: 26“And after (How long after not stated) the sixty-two weeks Messiah (Yahshua) shall be cut off and have naught (No apparent kingdom). And the people of a coming prince (ancient Roman emperor Vespasian's son general Titus and also the end time anti Mashiyach will accomplish this also) shall destroy the city and the set-apart place. And the end of it is with a flood (Armies). And wastes are decreed, and fighting until the end (Absolute end). 27“And he (Anti Mashiyach) shall confirm a covenant (Not Torah!) with many for one week (7 years). And in the middle of the week (Shemmitah) he shall put an end to slaughtering and meal offering. And on the wing of abominations (Idolatry, maybe akin to how Gaius Caligula attempted to have his statue placed inside of the Temple at Yahrushalem) he shall lay waste, even until the complete end and that which is decreed is poured out on the one who lays waste (Isaiah 11 and 2 Thess 2). I do not subscribe to the time marking of Judaism since the Creation; nor does Scripture support the annual calculated Hillel calendar. The Kairite calendar is more biblical. The doctrine of the soul/nefesh and "going to heaven at death" are both spurious with respect to Scripture. However, I would concur absolutely that the US presidents are occultists/Illuminati and that power behind those leaders control many of the world's events and catastrophes. We would never allow a 15 year old to speak in assembly as to a dream! Doctrine wise Judaism has its issues; but not as the litany of the Christologists, which are occultist and pagan!!! Yahweh has given us the book of Revelation, which is a composite of prophesies from the TaNaK predominantly. All the excessive gematria formulae beyond 600+60+6 is somewhat extraneous and cumbersome in my view. - Study and Obey Torah (9/25/2019 2:29:05 AM) I find it quite interesting that the man of sin, who will go into perdition during the great tribulation period, is prophesied in Daniel chapter 11, in verse 37 for not having any desire for women. This makes very clear the Antichrist is homosexual, a modern day Sodomite in violation of Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:27 which makes clear anyone who is not heterosexual will not inherit the Kingdom of Elohim. I believe Strong's Concordance is very accurate in determining that the 8th King, who will go into perdition, is the same entity as the son of perdition Paul prophesied about in 2 Thessalonians 2:3: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called G-d, or that is worshipped; so that he as G-d sitteth in the temple of G-d, shewing himself that he is Elohim. https://youtu.be/-H0MDGIXZ0o Coincidence is not a Kosher word. And the above testimony giving by Natan, proves that Gog is in fact the Antichrist prophesied in Revelation 13:15-18, the 8th King who will go into perdition at the end of the age of grace, when the great tribulation transpires. Natan was taken to heaven when he temporarily died on the 15th of Tishrei in 5776, when the last lunar eclipse occurred of the lunar eclipse tetrad. He was told by Father YHWH that Barack Obama is Gog prophesied in Ezekiel 39:11. Ezekiel prophesied about the Antichrist, whom he refers to as Gog, who started the Gog and Magog war during his term in office from 5769 to Tevet of 5777. When calculating gematria in the simple format, We can see that Revelation 17:10-11 speaks of 5 kings, who I believe are James Earl Carter Junior, Ronald Wilson Reagan, George Herbert Walker Bush, William Jefferson Clinton and George W. Bush. They all failed to part the land of Israel, which, when it is parted, will fulfill Joel 3:1,2 and 1 Thessalonians 5:3. The 6th King was Barack Hussein Obama when he reigned from 5769 to Tevet of 5777. Donald John Trump does continue a short space and at the beginning of the Tribulation period, the Antichrist will be revealed as the 8th King. It cannot be a coincidence that Malik Obama prophesied about Michael LaVaughn Robinson, the husband of Barack Hussein Obama. This I believe lines up with what Daniel prophesied about in Daniel 11:37. When calculating the simple gematria of all 7 Kings from Carter to Obama, we see that James Earl Carter Junior in simple gematria is 236, Ronald Wilson Reagan in simple gematria is 202, George Herbert Walker Bush in simple gematria is 253, William Jefferson Clinton is 264, George Herbert Walker Bush in simple gematria is 177, Barack Hussein Obama in simple gematria is 163 and Donald John Trump in simple gematria is 185. When adding all of the simple gematrias of these 7 Kings John prophesied about after receiving the prophetic dream on the Isle of Patmos, we come to a total of: 236 + 202 + 253 + 264 + 177 + 163 + 185 = 1480. When 1480 is divided by 33, which is significant because all of these Presidents are 33 degree Luciferian Free Masons, we get 1480 / 33 = 44.84848484848484... It can't be a coincidence that Barack Obama was the 44th President of the United States, and was born on the pagan Gregorian Calendar on August 4th in the Gregorian Year of 1961, which is the 8th Gregorian Month, the 4th Day of this month. - Julia Gombar Seko (9/24/2019 11:01:16 PM) Expand Comments for Revelation 17:11.Expand Cross References for Revelation 17:11. |