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Revelation 12:8 [study!]

American Standard Version (ASV 1901) [2]
— And they prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven.
King James Version (KJV 1769)
— And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
New American Standard Bible (NASB ©1995)
— and they were not strong enough, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven.
Webster's Revision of the KJB (WEB 1833)
— And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Darby's Translation (DBY 1890)
— and he prevailed not, nor was their place found any more in the heaven.
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (EBR 1902)
— and he prevailed not, neither was place found for them, any longer, in heaven.
Young's Literal Translation (YLT 1898)
— and they did not prevail, nor was their place found any more in the heaven;
Douay-Rheims Challoner Revision (DR 1750)
— And they prevailed not: neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Original King James Bible (AV 1611) [2]
— And preuailed not, neither was their place found any more in heauen.
John Etheridge Peshitta-Aramaic NT (1849)
— And they could not prevail, and their place was found no more in heaven.
James Murdock Peshitta-Aramaic NT (1852)
— and prevailed not; nor was their place found any more in heaven.

Strong's Numbers & Red-LettersGreek New TestamentColor-Code/Key Word Studies
And 2532
{2532} Prime
Apparently a primary particle, having a copulative and sometimes also a cumulative force; and, also, even, so, then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words.
prevailed 2480
{2480} Prime
From G2479; to have (or exercise) force (literally or figuratively).
<5656> Grammar
Tense - Aorist (See G5777)
Voice - Active (See G5784)
Mood - Indicative (See G5791)
Count - 2319
not; 3756
{3756} Prime
A primary word; the absolutely negative (compare G3361) adverb; no or not.
neither 3777
{3777} Prime
From G3756 and G5037; not too, that is, neither or nor; by analogy not even.
was y2147
[2147] Standard
A prolonged form of a primary word εὕρω [[heuro]], {hyoo'-ro}; which (together with another cognate form, εὑρέω [[heureo]], {hyoo-reh'-o}) is used for it in all the tenses except the present and imperfect; to find (literally or figuratively).
<0000> Grammar
The original word in the Greek or Hebrew is translated by more than one word in the English. The English translation is separated by one or more other words from the original.
their y846
[0846] Standard
From the particle αὖ [[au]] (perhaps akin to the base of G0109 through the idea of a baffling wind; backward); the reflexive pronoun self, used (alone or in the compound of G1438) of the third person, and (with the proper personal pronoun) of the other persons.
(0848) Complement
Contraction for G1438; self (in some oblique case or reflexive relation).
place 5117
{5117} Prime
Apparently a primary word; a spot (generally in space, but limited by occupancy; whereas G5561 is a larger but particular locality), that is, location (as a position, home, tract, etc.); figuratively condition, opportunity; specifically a scabbard.
found 2147
{2147} Prime
A prolonged form of a primary word εὕρω [[heuro]], {hyoo'-ro}; which (together with another cognate form, εὑρέω [[heureo]], {hyoo-reh'-o}) is used for it in all the tenses except the present and imperfect; to find (literally or figuratively).
<5681> Grammar
Tense - Aorist (See G5777)
Voice - Passive (See G5786)
Mood - Indicative (See G5791)
Count - 602
any more 2089
{2089} Prime
Perhaps akin to G2094; 'yet', still (of time or degree).
in 1722
{1722} Prime
A primary preposition denoting (fixed) position (in place, time or state), and (by implication) instrumentality (medially or constructively), that is, a relation of rest (intermediate between G1519 and G1537); 'in', at, (up-) on, by, etc.
heaven. 3772
{3772} Prime
Perhaps from the same as G3735 (through the idea of elevation); the sky; by extension heaven (as the abode of God); by implication happiness, power, eternity; specifically the Gospel (Christianity).
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary

Revelation 12:8

_ _ prevailed not — A and Coptic read, “He prevailed not.” But B and C read as English Version.

_ _ neither — A, B, and C read, “not even” (Greek,oude”): a climax. Not only did they not prevail, but not even their place was found any more in heaven. There are four gradations in the ever deeper downfall of Satan: (1) He is deprived of his heavenly excellency, though having still access to heaven as man’s accuser, up to Christ’s first coming. As heaven was not fully yet opened to man (John 3:13), so it was not yet shut against Satan and his demons. The Old Testament dispensation could not overcome him. (2) From Christ, down to the millennium, he is judicially cast out of heaven as the accuser of the elect, and shortly before the millennium loses his power against Israel, and has sentence of expulsion fully executed on him and his by Michael. His rage on earth is consequently the greater, his power being concentrated on it, especially towards the end, when “he knoweth that he hath but a short time” (Revelation 12:12). (3) He is bound during the millennium (Revelation 20:1-3). (4) After having been loosed for a while, he is cast for ever into the lake of fire.

Matthew Henry's Commentary

See commentary on Revelation 12:1-11.

John Wesley's Explanatory Notes

Revelation 12:8

And he prevailed not — The dragon himself is principally mentioned; but his angels, likewise, are to be understood. Neither was this place found any more in heaven — So till now he had a place in heaven. How deep a mystery is this! One may compare this with Luke 10:18; Ephesians 2:2; Ephesians 4:8; Ephesians 6:12.

Geneva Bible Translation Notes

Revelation 12:8

(15) And prevailed not; neither was their (a) place found any more in heaven.

(15) The description of the victory, by the denying of the thing in this verse, and by affirming the opposite in (Revelation 12:9). As Satan gained nothing in heaven, but was by the power of God thrown down into the world of which he is the prince, Christ himself and his elect members standing still by the throne of God.

(a) They were cast out so, that they were never seen any more in heaven.

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prevailed not:

Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Psalms 13:4 Lest mine enemy say, I have prevailed against him; [and] those that trouble me rejoice when I am moved.
Psalms 118:10-13 All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD will I destroy them. ... Thou hast thrust sore at me that I might fall: but the LORD helped me.
Psalms 129:2 Many a time have they afflicted me from my youth: yet they have not prevailed against me.
Jeremiah 1:19 And they shall fight against thee; but they shall not prevail against thee; for I [am] with thee, saith the LORD, to deliver thee.
Jeremiah 5:22 Fear ye not me? saith the LORD: will ye not tremble at my presence, which have placed the sand [for] the bound of the sea by a perpetual decree, that it cannot pass it: and though the waves thereof toss themselves, yet can they not prevail; though they roar, yet can they not pass over it?
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Romans 8:31-39 What shall we then say to these things? If God [be] for us, who [can be] against us? ... Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


Job 7:10 He shall return no more to his house, neither shall his place know him any more.
Job 8:18 If he destroy him from his place, then [it] shall deny him, [saying], I have not seen thee.
Job 20:9 The eye also [which] saw him shall [see him] no more; neither shall his place any more behold him.
Job 27:21-23 The east wind carrieth him away, and he departeth: and as a storm hurleth him out of his place. ... [Men] shall clap their hands at him, and shall hiss him out of his place.
Psalms 37:10 For yet a little while, and the wicked [shall] not [be]: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it [shall] not [be].
Acts 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
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Jb 7:10; 8:18; 20:9; 27:21. Ps 13:4; 37:10; 118:10; 129:2. Jr 1:19; 5:22. Mt 16:18. Ac 1:25. Ro 8:31. Jde 1:6. Rv 12:11.

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