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My answer to Shiloh on his comment below.
"Yet, there are many scriptures that have numerous interpretations and meanings. Is this not so? If The Queen in Gold of Ophir represents purity & cleanness of "the church" and the saints, why wouldn't it apply to Yeshua's fleshly Queen during his 1000 year reign in Jerusalem? Why would you approach a passage with a blind eye or a set of blinders on? Happy trails and remember...sometimes words "have two meanings." Or more."
Yes scriptures scriptures have numerous interpretations and meanings but they can not contradict the Bible, the Word of God. For there is no contradiction in the Bible.
Don't you know that God is El Shaddai which means
Omnipotent (El) Breast (Shad) Enough (dai); Not only God also has all the attributes of woman; but God is All Sufficient and therefore Self Sufficient. as YHVH Self Existent.
God doesn't need a company of a woman to be whole to be complete.
Please don't limit God and Christ is God.
Woman was made for man to supply the need of help meet for him Genesis 2:18; but our God Jesus Christ is Self sufficient.
Even us in the resurrection we will neither marry nor given in marriage, but we will be like angels of God in Heaven Matthew 22:30 But we will be made whole as God; like Him.
The Church is the definitely the Queen in Gold of Ophir to serve Jesus Christ the Son of God and worship Him during His 1000 years reign.
So forget about the idea of Yeshua's fleshly Queen during his 1000 year reign. It is not scriptural.
I hope you understand it .
shalom.
John Thierry Tchiakpe
Email: jtchiakpe@gmail.com
- John Thierry Tchiakpe (12/12/2014 1:42:06 AM)
The Queen in Gold of Ophir will be Yeshua's fleshly Queen when he rules & reigns in Jerusalem for a 1000 years. Why would The Father with hold a fleshly woman from the presence of the King during his 1000 year reign in Jerusalem? Has The Son done something wrong to anger The Father so that The Father would refrain his Son from having a fleshly Queen by his side? Don't you think that Yeshua would make a worthy husband & King to The Queen in Gold of Ophir? If not...why not? Please consider: Since we know that The Father has a Son...it would stand to reason that he would have a Daughter as well...don't ya think? Psalm 45:10 The marriage supper of the Lamb isn't just for the church and all the saints. Is not duality rampant throughout the scriptures? The Father of all creation is asking "His Daughter" to consider leaving her husband and her entire fathers house because Yeshua is desiring her beauty. Bible commentators and Bible teachers expound that Psalm 45 refers to the church and the saints. Could it not have other meanings as well?? Please listen closely: If Psalm 45:10 refers to the church, why would the church want to forget it's own people, Jew or gentile alike? That's counter productive and causes division, not unity! The Queen in Gold of Ophir is a literal person just as Yeshua is a literal person. Sometimes assumptions and preconceived notions concerning scriptures can be misleading and cause unsupported and unsubstantiated conclusions. Yes, the church and the saints are the bride of Yeshua and I agree 100% Read Psalm 45 with an open mind and read it for what it says...not what you or your pastor think it says & means.
What's a King ruling over his Kingdom...without the company of a lovely and beautiful Queen by his side! And yes...The Father "does have" a Daughter as specified in Psalm 45:10! What is so hard to understand...just read it for what it says! Allow scripture to come to you in a quiet and gentle way...instead of charging head first like a raging bull at it. It's a very simple and fool proof approach to scripture. Since our Heavenly Father is the author of the Bible...wouldn't you rather put your trust & confidence in The Father to help you understand scripture, rather than man!? (Proverbs 3:5) An analogy: An NFL team has a standard play in it's playbook. All the other 31 teams have the same play...except the terminology and symbolism is different for all 32 teams. Yet they all refer to the "same play". Same approach apply's to Psalm 45. Many scriptures have just one meaning and one application. Yet, there are many scriptures that have numerous interpretations and meanings. Is this not so? If The Queen in Gold of Ophir represents purity & cleanness of "the church" and the saints, why wouldn't it apply to Yeshua's fleshly Queen during his 1000 year reign in Jerusalem? Why would you approach a passage with a blind eye or a set of blinders on? Happy trails and remember...sometimes words "have two meanings." Or more.
Salutations,
Shiloh
- Shiloh (12/3/2014 2:19:21 PM) [qBible.com]
"Yet, there are many scriptures that have numerous interpretations and meanings. Is this not so? If The Queen in Gold of Ophir represents purity & cleanness of "the church" and the saints, why wouldn't it apply to Yeshua's fleshly Queen during his 1000 year reign in Jerusalem? Why would you approach a passage with a blind eye or a set of blinders on? Happy trails and remember...sometimes words "have two meanings." Or more."
Yes scriptures scriptures have numerous interpretations and meanings but they can not contradict the Bible, the Word of God. For there is no contradiction in the Bible.
Don't you know that God is El Shaddai which means
Omnipotent (El) Breast (Shad) Enough (dai); Not only God also has all the attributes of woman; but God is All Sufficient and therefore Self Sufficient. as YHVH Self Existent.
God doesn't need a company of a woman to be whole to be complete.
Please don't limit God and Christ is God.
Woman was made for man to supply the need of help meet for him Genesis 2:18; but our God Jesus Christ is Self sufficient.
Even us in the resurrection we will neither marry nor given in marriage, but we will be like angels of God in Heaven Matthew 22:30 But we will be made whole as God; like Him.
The Church is the definitely the Queen in Gold of Ophir to serve Jesus Christ the Son of God and worship Him during His 1000 years reign.
So forget about the idea of Yeshua's fleshly Queen during his 1000 year reign. It is not scriptural.
I hope you understand it .
shalom.
John Thierry Tchiakpe
Email: jtchiakpe@gmail.com
- John Thierry Tchiakpe (12/12/2014 1:42:06 AM)
The Queen in Gold of Ophir will be Yeshua's fleshly Queen when he rules & reigns in Jerusalem for a 1000 years. Why would The Father with hold a fleshly woman from the presence of the King during his 1000 year reign in Jerusalem? Has The Son done something wrong to anger The Father so that The Father would refrain his Son from having a fleshly Queen by his side? Don't you think that Yeshua would make a worthy husband & King to The Queen in Gold of Ophir? If not...why not? Please consider: Since we know that The Father has a Son...it would stand to reason that he would have a Daughter as well...don't ya think? Psalm 45:10 The marriage supper of the Lamb isn't just for the church and all the saints. Is not duality rampant throughout the scriptures? The Father of all creation is asking "His Daughter" to consider leaving her husband and her entire fathers house because Yeshua is desiring her beauty. Bible commentators and Bible teachers expound that Psalm 45 refers to the church and the saints. Could it not have other meanings as well?? Please listen closely: If Psalm 45:10 refers to the church, why would the church want to forget it's own people, Jew or gentile alike? That's counter productive and causes division, not unity! The Queen in Gold of Ophir is a literal person just as Yeshua is a literal person. Sometimes assumptions and preconceived notions concerning scriptures can be misleading and cause unsupported and unsubstantiated conclusions. Yes, the church and the saints are the bride of Yeshua and I agree 100% Read Psalm 45 with an open mind and read it for what it says...not what you or your pastor think it says & means.
What's a King ruling over his Kingdom...without the company of a lovely and beautiful Queen by his side! And yes...The Father "does have" a Daughter as specified in Psalm 45:10! What is so hard to understand...just read it for what it says! Allow scripture to come to you in a quiet and gentle way...instead of charging head first like a raging bull at it. It's a very simple and fool proof approach to scripture. Since our Heavenly Father is the author of the Bible...wouldn't you rather put your trust & confidence in The Father to help you understand scripture, rather than man!? (Proverbs 3:5) An analogy: An NFL team has a standard play in it's playbook. All the other 31 teams have the same play...except the terminology and symbolism is different for all 32 teams. Yet they all refer to the "same play". Same approach apply's to Psalm 45. Many scriptures have just one meaning and one application. Yet, there are many scriptures that have numerous interpretations and meanings. Is this not so? If The Queen in Gold of Ophir represents purity & cleanness of "the church" and the saints, why wouldn't it apply to Yeshua's fleshly Queen during his 1000 year reign in Jerusalem? Why would you approach a passage with a blind eye or a set of blinders on? Happy trails and remember...sometimes words "have two meanings." Or more.
Salutations,
Shiloh
- Shiloh (12/3/2014 2:19:21 PM) [qBible.com]
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