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Numbers 12:8 [study!]

American Standard Version (ASV 1901) [2]
— with him will I speak mouth to mouth, even manifestly, and not in dark speeches; and the form of Jehovah shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant, against Moses?
King James Version (KJV 1769)
— With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?
New American Standard Bible (NASB ©1995)
— With him I speak mouth to mouth, Even openly, and not in dark sayings, And he beholds the form of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid To speak against My servant, against Moses?”
Webster's Revision of the KJB (WEB 1833)
— With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: why then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?
Darby's Translation (DBY 1890)
— Mouth to mouth do I speak to him openly, and not in riddles; and the form of Jehovah doth he behold. Why then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant, against Moses?
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (EBR 1902)
— Mouth to mouth, do I speak with him, And plainly—not in dark sayings, And, the form of Yahweh, doth he discern,—Wherefore, then, were ye not afraid to speak against my servant—against Moses?
Young's Literal Translation (YLT 1898)
— mouth unto mouth I speak with him, and [by] an appearance, and not in riddles; and the form of Jehovah he beholdeth attentively; and wherefore have ye not been afraid to speak against My servant—against Moses?'
Douay-Rheims Challoner Revision (DR 1750)
— For I speak to him mouth to mouth: and plainly, and not by riddles and figures doth he see the Lord. Why then were you not afraid to speak ill of my servant Moses?
Original King James Bible (AV 1611) [2]
— With him will I speake mouth to mouth euen apparantly, and not in darke speeches, and the similitude of the LORD shall hee behold: wherefore then were yee not afraid to speake against my seruant Moses?
Brenton Greek Septuagint (LXX, Restored Names)
— I will speak to him mouth to mouth apparently, and not in dark speeches; and he has seen the glory of the Lord; and why were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Mosheh{gr.Moses}?
Full Hebrew Names / Holy Name KJV (2008) [2] [3]
— With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of Yahweh shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Mosheh?

Strong's Numbers & Hebrew NamesHebrew Old TestamentColor-Code/Key Word Studies
With him will I speak 1696
{1696} Prime
דִּבֵּר
dabar
{daw-bar'}
A primitive root; perhaps properly to arrange; but used figuratively (of words) to speak; rarely (in a destructive sense) to subdue.
z8762
<8762> Grammar
Stem - Piel (See H8840)
Mood - Imperfect (See H8811)
Count - 2447
mouth 6310
{6310} Prime
פֶּה
peh
{peh}
From H6284; the mouth (as the means of blowing), whether literally or figuratively (particularly speech); specifically edge, portion or side; adverbially (with preposition) according to.
to x413
(0413) Complement
אֵל
'el
{ale}
(Used only in the shortened constructive form (the second form)); a primitive particle, properly denoting motion towards, but occasionally used of a quiescent position, that is, near, with or among; often in general, to.
mouth, 6310
{6310} Prime
פֶּה
peh
{peh}
From H6284; the mouth (as the means of blowing), whether literally or figuratively (particularly speech); specifically edge, portion or side; adverbially (with preposition) according to.
even apparently, 4758
{4758} Prime
מַרְאֶה
mar'eh
{mar-eh'}
From H7200; a view (the act of seeing); also an appearance (the thing seen), whether (real) a shape (especially if handsome, comeliness; often plural the looks), or (mental) a vision.
and not x3808
(3808) Complement
לֹא
lo'
{lo}
lo; a primitive particle; not (the simple or abstract negation); by implication no; often used with other particles.
in dark speeches; 2420
{2420} Prime
חִידָה
chiydah
{khee-daw'}
From H2330; a puzzle; hence a trick, conundrum, sententious maxim.
and the similitude 8544
{8544} Prime
תְּמוּנָה
t@muwnah
{tem-oo-naw'}
From H4327; something portioned (that is, fashioned) out, as a shape, that is, (indefinitely) phantom, or (specifically) embodiment, or (figuratively) manifestation (of favor).
of Yhw יָהוֶה 3068
{3068} Prime
יְהֹוָה
Y@hovah
{yeh-ho-vaw'}
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God.
shall he behold: 5027
{5027} Prime
נָבַט
nabat
{naw-bat'}
A primitive root; to scan, that is, look intently at; by implication to regard with pleasure, favor or care.
z8686
<8686> Grammar
Stem - Hiphil (See H8818)
Mood - Imperfect (See H8811)
Count - 4046
wherefore x4069
(4069) Complement
מַדּוּעַ
madduwa`
{mad-doo'-ah}
From H4100 and the passive participle of H3045; what (is) known?; that is, (by implication), (adverbially) why?.
then were ye not afraid 3372
{3372} Prime
יָרֵא
yare'
{yaw-ray'}
A primitive root; to fear; morally to revere; causatively to frighten.
z8804
<8804> Grammar
Stem - Qal (See H8851)
Mood - Perfect (See H8816)
Count - 12562
x3808
(3808) Complement
לֹא
lo'
{lo}
lo; a primitive particle; not (the simple or abstract negation); by implication no; often used with other particles.
to speak 1696
{1696} Prime
דִּבֵּר
dabar
{daw-bar'}
A primitive root; perhaps properly to arrange; but used figuratively (of words) to speak; rarely (in a destructive sense) to subdue.
z8763
<8763> Grammar
Stem - Piel (See H8840)
Mood - Infinitive (See H8812)
Count - 790
against my servant 5650
{5650} Prime
עֶבֶד
`ebed
{eh'-bed}
From H5647; a servant.
M מֹשֶׁה? 4872
{4872} Prime
מֹשֶׁה
Mosheh
{mo-sheh'}
From H4871; drawing out (of the water), that is, rescued; Mosheh, the Israelitish lawgiver.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary

Numbers 12:8

_ _ with him will I speak mouth to mouth — immediately, not by an interpreter, nor by visionary symbols presented to his fancy.

_ _ apparently — plainly and surely.

_ _ not in dark speeches — parables or similitudes.

_ _ the similitude of the Lord shall he behold — not the face or essence of God, who is invisible (Exodus 33:20; Colossians 1:15; John 1:18); but some unmistakable evidence of His glorious presence (Exodus 33:2; Exodus 34:5). The latter clause should have been conjoined with the preceding one, thus: “not in dark speeches, and in a figure shall he behold the Lord.” The slight change in the punctuation removes all appearance of contradiction to Deuteronomy 4:15.

Matthew Henry's Commentary

See commentary on Numbers 12:4-9.

John Wesley's Explanatory Notes

Numbers 12:8

Mouth to mouth — That is, distinctly, by an articulate voice; immediately, not by an interpreter, nor by shadows and representations in his fancy, as it is in visions and dreams; and familiarly. Apparently — Plainly and certainly. Dark speeches — Not in parables, similitudes, dark resemblances; as by shewing a boiling pot, an almond tree, &c. to Jeremiah, a chariot with wheels, &c. to Ezekiel. The similitude — Not the face or essence of God, which no man can see and live, Exodus 33:20, but some singular manifestation of his glorious presence, as Exodus 33:11, Exodus 33:20. Yea the Son of God appeared to him in an human shape, which he took up for a time, that he might give him a foretaste of his future incarnation. My servant — Who is so in such an eminent and extraordinary manner.

Geneva Bible Translation Notes

Numbers 12:8

With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he (e) behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?

(e) As far as any man was able to comprehend, which he calls his back parts, (Exodus 33:23).

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mouth:

Numbers 14:14 And they will tell [it] to the inhabitants of this land: [for] they have heard that thou LORD [art] among this people, that thou LORD art seen face to face, and [that] thy cloud standeth over them, and [that] thou goest before them, by day time in a pillar of a cloud, and in a pillar of fire by night.
Exodus 33:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.
Deuteronomy 34:10 And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,
1 Timothy 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom [be] honour and power everlasting. Amen.

dark speeches:

Psalms 49:4 I will incline mine ear to a parable: I will open my dark saying upon the harp.
Ezekiel 17:2 Son of man, put forth a riddle, and speak a parable unto the house of Israel;
Ezekiel 20:49 Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! they say of me, Doth he not speak parables?
Matthew 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
John 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

similitude:

Exodus 24:10-11 And they saw the God of Israel: and [there was] under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in [his] clearness. ... And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.
Exodus 33:19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.
Exodus 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
Exodus 34:5-7 And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD. ... Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear [the guilty]; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth [generation].
Deuteronomy 4:15 Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day [that] the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:
Isaiah 40:18 To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?
Isaiah 46:5 To whom will ye liken me, and make [me] equal, and compare me, that we may be like?
John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him].
John 14:7-10 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. ... Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 15:24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.
2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, [even] as by the Spirit of the Lord.
2 Corinthians 4:4-6 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. ... For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to [give] the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

were ye:

Exodus 34:30 And when Aaron and all the children of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone; and they were afraid to come nigh him.
Luke 10:16 He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.
1 Thessalonians 4:8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
2 Peter 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous [are they], selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
Jude 1:8 Likewise also these [filthy] dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
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Ex 24:10; 33:11, 19, 23; 34:5, 30. Nu 14:14. Dt 4:15; 34:10. Ps 49:4. Is 40:18; 46:5. Ezk 17:2; 20:49. Mt 13:35. Lk 10:16. Jn 1:18; 14:7; 15:15, 24. 1Co 13:12. 2Co 3:18; 4:4. Col 1:15. 1Th 4:8. 1Ti 6:16. He 1:3. 2P 2:10. Jde 1:8.

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