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John 12:8 [study!]

American Standard Version (ASV 1901) [2]
— For the poor ye have always with you; but me ye have not always.
King James Version (KJV 1769)
— For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always.
New American Standard Bible (NASB ©1995)
— “For you always have the poor with you, but you do not always have Me.”
Webster's Revision of the KJB (WEB 1833)
— For the poor ye have always with you; but me ye have not always.
Darby's Translation (DBY 1890)
— for ye have the poor always with you, but me ye have not always.
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (EBR 1902)
— For, the destitute, always, have ye with you, whereas, me, not always, have ye.
Young's Literal Translation (YLT 1898)
— for the poor ye have always with yourselves, and me ye have not always.'
Douay-Rheims Challoner Revision (DR 1750)
— For the poor you have always with you: but me you have not always.
Original King James Bible (AV 1611) [2]
— For the poore alwayes yee haue with you: but me ye haue not alwayes.
John Etheridge Peshitta-Aramaic NT (1849)
— In all time the poor you have with you; but me you have not at all time.
James Murdock Peshitta-Aramaic NT (1852)
— For the poor are always with you, but I am not with you always.

Strong's Numbers & Red-LettersGreek New TestamentColor-Code/Key Word Studies
For 1063
{1063} Prime
γάρ
gar
{gar}
A primary particle; properly assigning a reason (used in argument, explanation or intensification; often with other particles).
the x3588
(3588) Complement

ho
{ho}
The masculine, feminine (second) and neuter (third) forms, in all their inflections; the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom).
poor 4434
{4434} Prime
πτωχός
ptochos
{pto-khos'}
From πτώσσω [[ptosso]] (to crouch; akin to G4422 and the alternate of G4098); a beggar (as cringing), that is, pauper (strictly denoting absolute or public mendicancy, although also used in a qualified or relative sense; whereas G3993 properly means only straitened circumstances in private), literally (often as noun) or figuratively (distressed).
always 3842
{3842} Prime
πάντοτε
pantote
{pan'-tot-eh}
From G3956 and G3753; every when, that is, at all times.
ye have 2192
{2192} Prime
ἔχω
echo
{ekh'-o}
A primary verb (including an alternate form σχέω [[scheo]], {skheh'-o}; used in certain tenses only); to hold (used in very various applications, literally or figuratively, direct or remote; such as possession, ability, contiguity, relation or condition).
z5719
<5719> Grammar
Tense - Present (See G5774)
Voice - Active (See G5784)
Mood - Indicative (See G5791)
Count - 3019
with 3326
{3326} Prime
μετά
meta
{met-ah'}
A primary preposition (often used adverbially); properly denoting accompaniment; 'amid' (local or causal); modified variously according to the case (genitive case association, or accusative case succession) with which it is joined; occupying an intermediate position between G0575 or G1537 and G1519 or G4314; less intimate than G1722, and less close than G4862).
you; 1438
{1438} Prime
ἑαυτοῦ
heautou
{heh-ow-too'}
(Including all the other cases); from a reflexive pronoun otherwise obsolete and the genitive (dative or accusative) of G0846; him (her, it, them, also [in conjunction with the personal pronoun of the other persons] my, thy, our, your) -self (-selves), etc.
but 1161
{1161} Prime
δέ
de
{deh}
A primary particle (adversative or continuative); but, and, etc.
me 1691
{1691} Prime
ἐμέ
eme
{em-eh'}
A prolonged form of G3165; me.
ye have 2192
{2192} Prime
ἔχω
echo
{ekh'-o}
A primary verb (including an alternate form σχέω [[scheo]], {skheh'-o}; used in certain tenses only); to hold (used in very various applications, literally or figuratively, direct or remote; such as possession, ability, contiguity, relation or condition).
z5719
<5719> Grammar
Tense - Present (See G5774)
Voice - Active (See G5784)
Mood - Indicative (See G5791)
Count - 3019
not 3756
{3756} Prime
οὐ
ou
{oo}
A primary word; the absolutely negative (compare G3361) adverb; no or not.
always. 3842
{3842} Prime
πάντοτε
pantote
{pan'-tot-eh}
From G3956 and G3753; every when, that is, at all times.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary

See commentary on John 12:1-8.


John 12:8

_ _ the poor always ... with you — referring to Deuteronomy 15:11.

_ _ but me ... not always — a gentle hint of His approaching departure. He adds (Mark 14:8), “She hath done what she could,” a noble testimony, embodying a principle of immense importance. “Verily, I say unto you, Wheresoever this Gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her” (Matthew 26:13; Mark 14:9). “In the act of love done to Him she had erected to herself an eternal monument, as lasting as the Gospel, the eternal word of God. From generation to generation this remarkable prophecy of the Lord has been fulfilled; and even we, in explaining this saying of the Redeemer, of necessity contribute to its accomplishment” [Olshausen]. “Who but Himself had the power to ensure to any work of man, even if resounding in his own time through the whole earth, an imperishable remembrance in the stream of history? Behold once more here, the majesty of His royal judicial supremacy in the government of the world, in this, Verily I say unto you” [Stier]. Beautiful are the lessons here: (1) Love to Christ transfigures the humblest services. All, indeed, who have themselves a heart value its least outgoings beyond the most costly mechanical performances; but how does it endear the Savior to us to find Him endorsing the principle as His own standard in judging of character and deeds!

“What though in poor and humble guise
_ _ Thou here didst sojourn, cottage-born,
Yet from Thy glory in the skies
_ _ Our earthly gold Thou didst not scorn.
For Love delights to bring her best,
And where Love is, that offering evermore is blest.
“Love on the Saviour’s dying head
_ _ Her spikenard drops unblam’d may pour,
May mount His cross, and wrap Him dead
_ _ In spices from the golden shore.” etc. —
— Keble.

_ _ (2) Works of utility should never be set in opposition to the promptings of self-sacrificing love, and the sincerity of those who do so is to be suspected. Under the mask of concern for the poor at home, how many excuse themselves from all care of the perishing heathen abroad. (3) Amidst conflicting duties, that which our “hand (presently) findeth to do” is to be preferred, and even a less duty only to be done now to a greater that can be done at any time. (4) “If there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not” (2 Corinthians 8:12). — “She hath done what she could” (Mark 14:8). (5) As Jesus beheld in spirit the universal diffusion of His Gospel, while His lowest depth of humiliation was only approaching, so He regards the facts of His earthly history as constituting the substance of this Gospel, and the relation of them as just the “preaching of this Gospel.” Not that preachers are to confine themselves to a bare narration of these facts, but that they are to make their whole preaching turn upon them as its grand center, and derive from them its proper vitality; all that goes before this in the Bible being but the preparation for them, and all that follows but the sequel.

Matthew Henry's Commentary

See commentary on John 12:1-11.

John Wesley's Explanatory Notes

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Geneva Bible Translation Notes

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Cross-Reference Topical ResearchStrong's Concordance
the poor:

Deuteronomy 15:11 For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.
Matthew 26:11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.
Mark 14:7 For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always.

but:

John 12:35 Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth.
John 8:21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
John 13:33 Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you.
John 16:5-7 But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou? ... Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
Song of Songs 5:6 I opened to my beloved; but my beloved had withdrawn himself, [and] was gone: my soul failed when he spake: I sought him, but I could not find him; I called him, but he gave me no answer.
Acts 1:9-11 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. ... Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
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Dt 15:11. So 5:6. Mt 26:11. Mk 14:7. Jn 8:21; 12:35; 13:33; 16:5. Ac 1:9.

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