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Hebrews 5:8 [study!]

American Standard Version (ASV 1901) [2]
— though he was a Son, yet learned obedience by the things which he suffered;
King James Version (KJV 1769)
— Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
New American Standard Bible (NASB ©1995)
— Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered.
Webster's Revision of the KJB (WEB 1833)
— Though he was a Son, yet he learned obedience by the things which he suffered;
Darby's Translation (DBY 1890)
— though he were Son, he learned obedience from the things which he suffered;
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (EBR 1902)
— Even though he was a son, yet learned, from what things he suffered, obedience;
Young's Literal Translation (YLT 1898)
— through being a Son, did learn by the things which he suffered—the obedience,
Douay-Rheims Challoner Revision (DR 1750)
— And whereas indeed he was the Son of God, he learned obedience by the things which he suffered.
Original King James Bible (AV 1611) [2]
— Though hee were a Sonne, yet learned hee obedience, by the things which he suffered:
John Etheridge Peshitta-Aramaic NT (1849)
— And though he was the Son, yet from the fear and the sufferings which he sustained he learned obedience.
James Murdock Peshitta-Aramaic NT (1852)
— And though he was a son, yet, from the fear and the sufferings he endured, he learned obedience.

Strong's Numbers & Red-LettersGreek New TestamentColor-Code/Key Word Studies
Though 2539
{2539} Prime
καίπερ
kaiper
{kah'-ee-per}
From G2532 and G4007; and indeed, that is, nevertheless or notwithstanding.
he were 5607
{5607} Prime
ὤν
on
{oan}
The feminine, the neuter and the present participle of G1510; being.
z5752
<5752> Grammar
Tense - Present (See G5774)
Voice - No Voice Stated (See G5799)
Mood - Participle (See G5796)
Count - 186
a Son, 5207
{5207} Prime
υἱός
huios
{hwee-os'}
Apparently a primary word; a 'son' (sometimes of animals), used very widely of immediate, remote or figurative kinship.
yet learned x3129
(3129) Complement
μανθάνω
manthano
{man-than'-o}
Prolonged from a primary verb, another form of which, μαθέω [[matheo]], is used as an alternate in certain tenses; to learn (in any way).
he y3129
[3129] Standard
μανθάνω
manthano
{man-than'-o}
Prolonged from a primary verb, another form of which, μαθέω [[matheo]], is used as an alternate in certain tenses; to learn (in any way).
z5627
<5627> Grammar
Tense - Second Aorist (See G5780)
Voice - Active (See G5784)
Mood - Indicative (See G5791)
Count - 2138 plus 1 in a variant reading in a footnote
obedience 5218
{5218} Prime
ὑπακοή
hupakoe
{hoop-ak-o-ay'}
From G5219; attentive hearkening, that is, (by implication) compliance or submission.
by 575
{0575} Prime
ἀπό
apo
{ap-o'}
A primary particle; 'off', that is, away (from something near), in various senses (of place, time, or relation; literally or figuratively).
the things which 3739
{3739} Prime
ὅς
hos
{hos}
Probably a primary word (or perhaps a form of the article G3588); the relative (sometimes demonstrative) pronoun, who, which, what, that.
he suffered; 3958
{3958} Prime
πάσχω
pascho
{pas'-kho}
Apparently a primary verb (the third form used only in certain tenses for it); to experience a sensation or impression (usually painful).
z5627
<5627> Grammar
Tense - Second Aorist (See G5780)
Voice - Active (See G5784)
Mood - Indicative (See G5791)
Count - 2138 plus 1 in a variant reading in a footnote
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary

Hebrews 5:8

_ _ Though He WAS (so it ought to be translated: a positive admitted fact: not a mere supposition as were would imply) God’s divine Son (whence, even in His agony, He so lovingly and often cried, Father, Matthew 26:39), yet He learned His (so the Greek) obedience, not from His Sonship, but from His sufferings. As the Son, He was always obedient to the Father’s will; but the special obedience needed to qualify Him as our High Priest, He learned experimentally in practical suffering. Compare Philippians 2:6-8, “equal with God, but ... took upon Him the form of a servant, and became obedient unto death,” etc. He was obedient already before His passion, but He stooped to a still more humiliating and trying form of obedience then. The Greek adage is, “Pathemata mathemata,” “sufferings, disciplinings.” Praying and obeying, as in Christ’s case, ought to go hand in hand.

Matthew Henry's Commentary

See commentary on Hebrews 5:1-9.

John Wesley's Explanatory Notes

Hebrews 5:8

Though he were a Son — This is interposed. lest any should be offended at all these instances of human weakness. In the garden, how frequently did he call God his Father! Matthew 26:39, &c. And hence it most evidently appears that his being the Son of God did not arise merely from his resurrection. Yet learned he — The word learned, premised to the word suffered, elegantly shows how willingly he learned. He learned obedience, when be began to suffer; when he applied himself to drink that cup: obedience in suffering and dying.

Geneva Bible Translation Notes

Hebrews 5:8

Though he were a Son, yet (i) learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

(i) He learned in deed what it is to have a Father, whom a man must obey.

Cross-Reference Topical ResearchStrong's Concordance
he were:

Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

yet:

Hebrews 10:5-9 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: ... Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
Isaiah 50:5-6 The Lord GOD hath opened mine ear, and I was not rebellious, neither turned away back. ... I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.
Matthew 3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer [it to be so] now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
John 4:34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Philippians 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
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Is 50:5. Mt 3:15. Jn 4:34; 6:38; 15:10. Php 2:8. He 1:5, 8; 3:6; 10:5.

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