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Hebrews 12:5 [study!]

American Standard Version (ASV 1901) [2]
— and ye have forgotten the exhortation which reasoneth with you as with sons, My son, regard not lightly the chastening of the Lord, Nor faint when thou art reproved of him;
King James Version (KJV 1769)
— And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
New American Standard Bible (NASB ©1995)
— and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons, “MY SON, DO NOT REGARD LIGHTLY THE DISCIPLINE OF THE LORD, NOR FAINT WHEN YOU ARE REPROVED BY HIM;
Webster's Revision of the KJB (WEB 1833)
— And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh to you as to children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked by him:
Darby's Translation (DBY 1890)
— And ye have quite forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons: My son, despise not [the] chastening of [the] Lord, nor faint [when] reproved by him;
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (EBR 1902)
— And ye have quite forgotten the exhortation which, indeed, with you as with sons, doth reason:—My son! be not slighting the discipline of the Lord, neither be fainting, when by him, thou art reproved;
Young's Literal Translation (YLT 1898)
— and ye have forgotten the exhortation that doth speak fully with you as with sons, 'My son, be not despising chastening of the Lord, nor be faint, being reproved by Him,
Douay-Rheims Challoner Revision (DR 1750)
— And you have forgotten the consolation which speaketh to you, as unto children, saying: My son, neglect not the discipline of the Lord: neither be thou wearied whilst thou art rebuked by him.
Original King James Bible (AV 1611) [2]
— And ye haue forgotten the exhortation which speaketh vnto you as vnto children, My sonne, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him.
John Etheridge Peshitta-Aramaic NT (1849)
— And ye have forgotten the instruction of him who, as unto children, hath said to you, My son, contemn not the discipline of the Lord, and let not thy soul fail when by him thou art corrected:
James Murdock Peshitta-Aramaic NT (1852)
— And ye have forgotten the monition, which saith to you, as to children, My son, disregard not the chastening of the Lord; nor let thy soul faint, when thou art rebuked by him.

Strong's Numbers & Red-LettersGreek New TestamentColor-Code/Key Word Studies
And 2532
{2532} Prime
καί
kai
{kahee}
Apparently a primary particle, having a copulative and sometimes also a cumulative force; and, also, even, so, then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words.
ye have forgotten 1585
{1585} Prime
ἐκλανθάνομαι
eklanthanomai
{ek-lan-than'-om-ahee}
Middle voice from G1537 and G2990; to be utterly oblivious of.
z5769
<5769> Grammar
Tense - Perfect (See G5778)
Voice - Passive (See G5786)
Mood - Indicative (See G5791)
Count - 215
the x3588
(3588) Complement

ho
{ho}
The masculine, feminine (second) and neuter (third) forms, in all their inflections; the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom).
exhortation 3874
{3874} Prime
παράκλησις
paraklesis
{par-ak'-lay-sis}
From G3870; imploration, hortation, solace.
which 3748
{3748} Prime
ὅστις
hostis
{hos'-tis}
From G3739 and G5100; which some, that is, any that; also (definitely) which same.
speaketh 1256
{1256} Prime
διαλέγομαι
dialegomai
{dee-al-eg'-om-ahee}
Middle voice from G1223 and G3004; to say thoroughly, that is, discuss (in argument or exhortation).
z5736
<5736> Grammar
Tense - Present (See G5774)
Voice - Middle or Passive Deponent (See G5790)
Mood - Indicative (See G5791)
Count - 618
unto you 5213
{5213} Prime
ὑμῖν
humin
{hoo-min'}
Irregular dative case of G5210; to (with or by) you.
as 5613
{5613} Prime
ὡς
hos
{hoce}
Probably adverb of comparative from G3739; which how, that is, in that manner (very variously used as shown).
unto children, 5207
{5207} Prime
υἱός
huios
{hwee-os'}
Apparently a primary word; a 'son' (sometimes of animals), used very widely of immediate, remote or figurative kinship.
My 3450
{3450} Prime
μοῦ
mou
{moo}
The simpler from of G1700; of me.
son, 5207
{5207} Prime
υἱός
huios
{hwee-os'}
Apparently a primary word; a 'son' (sometimes of animals), used very widely of immediate, remote or figurative kinship.
despise 3643
{3643} Prime
ὀλιγωρέω
oligoreo
{ol-ig-o-reh'-o}
From a compound of G3641 and ὤρα [[ora]] ('care'); to have little regard for, that is, to disesteem.
z0
<0000> Grammar
The original word in the Greek or Hebrew is translated by more than one word in the English. The English translation is separated by one or more other words from the original.
not 3361
{3361} Prime
μή
me
{may}
A primary particle of qualified negation (whereas G3756 expresses an absolute denial); (adverbially) not, (conjugationally) lest; also (as interrogitive implying a negative answer [whereas G3756 expects an affirmative one]); whether.
thou y3643
[3643] Standard
ὀλιγωρέω
oligoreo
{ol-ig-o-reh'-o}
From a compound of G3641 and ὤρα [[ora]] ('care'); to have little regard for, that is, to disesteem.
z5720
<5720> Grammar
Tense - Present (See G5774)
Voice - Active (See G5784)
Mood - Imperative (See G5794)
Count - 592
the chastening 3809
{3809} Prime
παιδεία
paideia
{pahee-di'-ah}
From G3811; tutorage, that is, education or training; by implication disciplinary correction.
of the Lord, 2962
{2962} Prime
κύριος
kurios
{koo'-ree-os}
From κῦρος [[kuros]] (supremacy); supreme in authority, that is, (as noun) controller; by implication Mr. (as a respectful title).
nor 3366
{3366} Prime
μηδέ
mede
{may-deh'}
From G3361 and G1161; but not, not even; in a continued negation, nor.
faint 1590
{1590} Prime
ἐκλύω
ekluo
{ek-loo'-o}
From G1537 and G3089; to relax (literally or figuratively).
z5744
<5744> Grammar
Tense - Present (See G5774)
Voice - Passive (See G5786)
Mood - Imperative (See G5794)
Count - 48
when thou art rebuked 1651
{1651} Prime
ἐλέγχω
elegcho
{el-eng'-kho}
Of uncertain affinity; to confute, admonish.
z5746
<5746> Grammar
Tense - Present (See G5774)
Voice - Passive (See G5786)
Mood - Participle (See G5796)
Count - 360
of 5259
{5259} Prime
ὑπό
hupo
{hoop-o'}
A primary preposition; under, that is, (with the genitive) of place (beneath), or with verbs (the agency or means, through); (with the accusative) of place (whither [underneath] or where [below]) or time (when [at]).
him: 846
{0846} Prime
αὐτός
autos
{ow-tos'}
From the particle αὖ [[au]] (perhaps akin to the base of G0109 through the idea of a baffling wind; backward); the reflexive pronoun self, used (alone or in the compound of G1438) of the third person, and (with the proper personal pronoun) of the other persons.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary

Hebrews 12:5

_ _ forgotten — “utterly,” so the Greek. Compare Hebrews 12:15-17, in which he implies how utterly some of them had forgotten God’s word. His exhortation ought to have more effect on you than the cheers and exhortations of the spectators have on the competitors striving in the games.

_ _ whichGreek, “the which,” of which the following is a specimen [Alford].

_ _ speaketh unto you — as in a dialogue or discourse, so the Greek, implying God’s loving condescension (compare Isaiah 1:18).

_ _ despise not — literally, “Do not hold of little account.” Betraying a contumacious spirit of unbelief (Hebrews 3:12), as “faint” implies a broken-down, weak, and desponding spirit. “Chastening” is to be borne with “subjection” (Hebrews 12:9); “rebuke” (more severe than chastening) is to be borne with endurance (Hebrews 12:7). “Some in adversity kick against God’s will, others despond; neither is to be done by the Christian, who is peculiarly the child of God. To him such adverse things occur only by the decree of God, and that designed in kindness, namely, to remove the defilements adhering to the believer, and to exercise his patience” [Grotius].

Matthew Henry's Commentary

See commentary on Hebrews 12:4-17.

John Wesley's Explanatory Notes

Hebrews 12:5

And yet ye seem already to have forgotten the exhortation — Wherein God speaketh to you with the utmost tenderness. Despise not thou the chastening of the Lord — Do not slight or make little of it; do not impute any affliction to chance or second causes but see and revere the hand of God in it. Neither faint when thou art rebuked of him — But endure it patiently and fruitfully. Proverbs 3:11, &c.

Geneva Bible Translation Notes

Hebrews 12:5

(5) And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

(5) Secondly, because they are testimonies of his fatherly good will towards us, in that they show themselves to be illegitimate, if they cannot abide to be chastened by God.

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ye have forgotten:

Deuteronomy 4:9-10 Only take heed to thyself, and keep thy soul diligently, lest thou forget the things which thine eyes have seen, and lest they depart from thy heart all the days of thy life: but teach them thy sons, and thy sons' sons; ... [Specially] the day that thou stoodest before the LORD thy God in Horeb, when the LORD said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and [that] they may teach their children.
Psalms 119:16 I will delight myself in thy statutes: I will not forget thy word.
Psalms 119:83 For I am become like a bottle in the smoke; [yet] do I not forget thy statutes.
Psalms 119:109 My soul [is] continually in my hand: yet do I not forget thy law.
Proverbs 3:1 My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments:
Proverbs 4:5 Get wisdom, get understanding: forget [it] not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.
Matthew 16:9-10 Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up? ... Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
Luke 24:6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,
Luke 24:8 And they remembered his words,

the exhortation:

Hebrews 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Proverbs 3:11-12 My son, despise not the chastening of the LORD; neither be weary of his correction: ... For whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son [in whom] he delighteth.

despise:

Job 5:17-18 Behold, happy [is] the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty: ... For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole.
Job 34:31 Surely it is meet to be said unto God, I have borne [chastisement], I will not offend [any more]:
Psalms 94:12 Blessed [is] the man whom thou chastenest, O LORD, and teachest him out of thy law;
Psalms 118:18 The LORD hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death.
Psalms 119:75 I know, O LORD, that thy judgments [are] right, and [that] thou in faithfulness hast afflicted me.
Jeremiah 31:18 I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself [thus]; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed [to the yoke]: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou [art] the LORD my God.
1 Corinthians 11:32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
James 1:12 Blessed [is] the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

nor faint:

Hebrews 12:3-4 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. ... Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
Joshua 7:7-11 And Joshua said, Alas, O Lord GOD, wherefore hast thou at all brought this people over Jordan, to deliver us into the hand of the Amorites, to destroy us? would to God we had been content, and dwelt on the other side Jordan! ... Israel hath sinned, and they have also transgressed my covenant which I commanded them: for they have even taken of the accursed thing, and have also stolen, and dissembled also, and they have put [it] even among their own stuff.
2 Samuel 6:7-10 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for [his] error; and there he died by the ark of God. ... So David would not remove the ark of the LORD unto him into the city of David: but David carried it aside into the house of Obededom the Gittite.
1 Chronicles 13:9-13 And when they came unto the threshingfloor of Chidon, Uzza put forth his hand to hold the ark; for the oxen stumbled. ... So David brought not the ark [home] to himself to the city of David, but carried it aside into the house of Obededom the Gittite.
1 Chronicles 15:12-13 And said unto them, Ye [are] the chief of the fathers of the Levites: sanctify yourselves, [both] ye and your brethren, that ye may bring up the ark of the LORD God of Israel unto [the place that] I have prepared for it. ... For because ye [did it] not at the first, the LORD our God made a breach upon us, for that we sought him not after the due order.
Psalms 6:1-2 [[To the chief Musician on Neginoth upon Sheminith, A Psalm of David.]] O LORD, rebuke me not in thine anger, neither chasten me in thy hot displeasure. ... Have mercy upon me, O LORD; for I [am] weak: O LORD, heal me; for my bones are vexed.
2 Corinthians 4:8-9 [We are] troubled on every side, yet not distressed; [we are] perplexed, but not in despair; ... Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
2 Corinthians 12:9-10 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. ... Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
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