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Ecclesiastes 12:11 [study!]

American Standard Version (ASV 1901) [2]
— The words of the wise are as goads; and as nails well fastened are [the words of] the masters of assemblies, [which] are given from one shepherd.
King James Version (KJV 1769)
— The words of the wise [are] as goads, and as nails fastened [by] the masters of assemblies, [which] are given from one shepherd.
New American Standard Bible (NASB ©1995)
— The words of wise men are like goads, and masters of [these] collections are like well-driven nails; they are given by one Shepherd.
Webster's Revision of the KJB (WEB 1833)
— The words of the wise [are] as goads, and as nails fastened [by] the masters of assemblies, [which] are given from one shepherd.
Darby's Translation (DBY 1890)
— The words of the wise are as goads, and the collections [of them] as nails fastened in: they are given from one shepherd.
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (EBR 1902)
— The words of the wise, are as goads, yea, as driven nails, their well-ordered sayings,—given from one shepherd.
Young's Literal Translation (YLT 1898)
— Words of the wise [are] as goads, and as fences planted [by] the masters of collections, they have been given by one shepherd.
Douay-Rheims Challoner Revision (DR 1750)
— The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails deeply fastened in, which by the counsel of masters are given from one shepherd.
Original King James Bible (AV 1611) [2]
— The wordes of the wise [are] as goads, and as nailes fastened [by] the masters of assemblies, [which] are giuen from one shepheard.
Brenton Greek Septuagint (LXX, Restored Names)
— The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails firmly fastened, which have been given from one shepherd by agreement.
Full Hebrew Names / Holy Name KJV (2008) [2] [3]
— The words of the wise [are] as goads, and as nails fastened [by] the masters of assemblies, [which] are given from one shepherd.

Strong's Numbers & Hebrew NamesHebrew Old TestamentColor-Code/Key Word Studies
The words 1697
{1697} Prime
דָּבָר
dabar
{daw-baw'}
From H1696; a word; by implication a matter (as spoken of) or thing; adverbially a cause.
of the wise 2450
{2450} Prime
חָכָם
chakam
{khaw-kawm'}
From H2449; wise, (that is, intelligent, skilful or artful).
[are] as goads, 1861
{1861} Prime
דָּרְבוֹן
dorbown
{dor-bone'}
Of uncertain derivation; a goad.
and as nails 4930
{4930} Prime
מַשְׂמֵר
masm@rah
{mas-mer-aw'}
For H4548 feminine; a peg.
fastened 5193
{5193} Prime
נָטַע
nata`
{naw-tah'}
A primitive root; properly to strike in, that is, fix; specifically to plant (literally or figuratively).
z8803
<8803> Grammar
Stem - Qal (See H8851)
Mood - Participle Passive (See H8815)
Count - 1415
[by] the masters 1167
{1167} Prime
בַּעַל
ba`al
{bah'-al}
From H1166; a master; hence a husband, or (figuratively) owner (often used with another noun in modifications of this latter sense.
of assemblies, 627
{0627} Prime
אֲסֻפָּה
'acuppah
{as-up-paw'}
Feminine of H0624; a collection of (learned) men (only in the plural).
[which] are given 5414
{5414} Prime
נָתַן
nathan
{naw-than'}
A primitive root; to give, used with great latitude of application (put, make, etc.).
z8738
<8738> Grammar
Stem - Niphal (See H8833)
Mood - Perfect (See H8816)
Count - 1429
from one y259
[0259] Standard
אֶחָד
'echad
{ekh-awd'}
A numeral from H0258; properly united, that is, one; or (as an ordinal) first.
shepherd. 7462
{7462} Prime
רָעָה
ra`ah
{raw-aw'}
A primitive root; to tend a flock, that is, pasture it; intransitively to graze (literally or figuratively); generally to rule; by extension to associate with (as a friend).
z8802
<8802> Grammar
Stem - Qal (See H8851)
Mood - Participle Active (See H8814)
Count - 5386
x4480
(4480) Complement
מִן
min
{min}
For H4482; properly a part of; hence (prepositionally), from or out of in many senses.
x259
(0259) Complement
אֶחָד
'echad
{ekh-awd'}
A numeral from H0258; properly united, that is, one; or (as an ordinal) first.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary

See commentary on Ecclesiastes 12:8-12.


Ecclesiastes 12:11

_ _ goads — piercing deeply into the mind (Acts 2:37; Acts 9:5; Hebrews 4:12); evidently inspired words, as the end of the verse proves.

_ _ fastened — rather, on account of the Hebrew genders, (The words) “are fastened (in the memory) like nails” [Holden].

_ _ masters of assemblies — rather, “the masters of collections (that is, collectors of inspired sayings, Proverbs 25:1), are given (‘have published them as proceeding’ [Holden]) from one Shepherd,” namely, the Spirit of Jesus Christ [Weiss], (Ezekiel 37:24). However, the mention of “goads” favors the English Version, “masters of assemblies,” namely, under-shepherds, inspired by the Chief Shepherd (1 Peter 5:2-4). Schmidt translates, “The masters of assemblies are fastened (made sure) as nails,” so Isaiah 22:23.

Matthew Henry's Commentary

See commentary on Ecclesiastes 12:8-12.

John Wesley's Explanatory Notes

Ecclesiastes 12:11

Nails — Piercing into men's dull minds, which make powerful and abiding impressions in them. Masters — By the teachers of God's church, appointed of God for that work. Shepherd — From Christ, the great Shepherd of the church in all ages.

Geneva Bible Translation Notes

Ecclesiastes 12:11

The words of the wise [are] as goads, and as nails (x) fastened [by] the masters of assemblies, [which] are given from one (y) shepherd.

(x) Which are well applied by the ministers, whom he calls masters.

(y) That is by God.

Cross-Reference Topical ResearchStrong's Concordance
as goads:

Jeremiah 23:29 [Is] not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer [that] breaketh the rock in pieces?
Matthew 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Acts 2:37 Now when they heard [this], they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men [and] brethren, what shall we do?
2 Corinthians 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

masters:

John 3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

given:

Genesis 49:24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty [God] of Jacob; (from thence [is] the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)
Psalms 23:1 [[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD [is] my shepherd; I shall not want.
Psalms 80:1 [[To the chief Musician upon Shoshannimeduth, A Psalm of Asaph.]] Give ear, O Shepherd of Israel, thou that leadest Joseph like a flock; thou that dwellest [between] the cherubims, shine forth.
Isaiah 40:11 He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry [them] in his bosom, [and] shall gently lead those that are with young.
Ezekiel 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, [even] my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.
John 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine.
Hebrews 13:20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
1 Peter 5:4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.
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Gn 49:24. Ps 23:1; 80:1. Is 40:11. Jr 23:29. Ezk 34:23. Mt 3:7. Jn 3:10; 10:14. Ac 2:37. 2Co 10:4. He 4:12; 13:20. 1P 5:4.

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"The words of the Sagas are as goads. The Masters of Collections are established as firm nails."

Did Solomon use this word(goads) in a disciplinary way or simply in a positive sense to incite to encouragement? I know that planted nails was merely a metaphor for something that is sure and true(sturdy).
- R.J. (9/10/2013 8:27:41 PM)
"The words of the Sagas are as goads. The Masters of Collections are established as firm nails."

Did Solomon use this word(goads) in a disciplinary way or simply in a positive sense to incite to encouragement? I know that planted nails was merely a metaphor for something that is sure and true(sturdy).
- R.J. (9/10/2013 2:02:41 PM)
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