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Daniel 4:17 [study!]

American Standard Version (ASV 1901) [2]
— The sentence is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones; to the intent that the living may know that the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the lowest of men.
King James Version (KJV 1769)
— This matter [is] by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
New American Standard Bible (NASB ©1995)
— “This sentence is by the decree of the [angelic] watchers And the decision is a command of the holy ones, In order that the living may know That the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind, And bestows it on whom He wishes And sets over it the lowliest of men.”
Webster's Revision of the KJB (WEB 1833)
— This matter [is] by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
Darby's Translation (DBY 1890)
— This sentence is by the decree of the watchers, and the decision by the word of the holy ones: that the living may know that the Most High ruleth over the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (EBR 1902)
— By the decree of the watchers, is the thing, and [by] the mandate of the holy ones, the matter: to the intent that the living, may get to know, that the Most High, hath dominion, over the kingdom of men, and, to whomsoever he pleaseth, he giveth it, and, one low among men, he setteth up over it.
Young's Literal Translation (YLT 1898)
— by the decree of the sifters [is] the sentence, and by the saying of the holy ones the requirement, to the intent that the living may know that the Most High is ruler in the kingdom of men, and to whom He willeth He giveth it, and the lowest of men He doth raise up over it.
Douay-Rheims Challoner Revision (DR 1750)
— This is the decree by the sentence of the watchers, and the word and demand of the holy ones: till the living know, that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men: and he will give it to whomsoever it shall please him, and he will appoint the basest man over it.
Original King James Bible (AV 1611) [2]
— This matter [is] by the decree of the watchers, and the demaund by the word of the Holy ones: to the intent that the liuing may know, that the most High ruleth in the kingdome of men, and giueth it to whomsoeuer hee will, and setteth vp ouer it the basest of men.
Brenton Greek Septuagint (LXX, Restored Names)
— The matter is by the decree of the watcher, and the demand is a word of the holy ones; that the living may known that the Lord is most high [over] the kingdom of men, and he will give it to whomsoever he shall please, and will set up over it that which is set at nought of men.
Full Hebrew Names / Holy Name KJV (2008) [2] [3]
— This matter [is] by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that Illaya ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

Strong's Numbers & Hebrew NamesHebrew Old TestamentColor-Code/Key Word Studies
This matter 6600
{6600} Prime
פִּתְגָּם
pithgam
{pith-gawm'}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H6599; a word, answer, letter or decree.
[is] by the decree 1510
{1510} Prime
גְּזֵרָה
g@zerah
{ghez-ay-raw'}
(Chaldee); From H1505 (as H1504); a decree.
of the watchers, 5894
{5894} Prime
עִיר
`iyr
{eer}
(Chaldee); from a root corresponding to H5782; a watcher, that is, an angel (as guardian).
and the demand 7595
{7595} Prime
שְׁאֵלָא
sh@'ela'
{sheh-ay-law'}
(Chaldee); from H7593; properly a question (at law), that is, judicial decision or mandate.
by the word 3983
{3983} Prime
מֵאמַר
me'mar
{may-mar'}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H3982.
of the holy ones: 6922
{6922} Prime
קַדִּישׁ
qaddiysh
{kad-deesh'}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H6918.
to 5705
{5705} Prime
עַד
`ad
{ad}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H5704.
the intent 1701
{1701} Prime
דִּבְרָה
dibrah
{dib-raw'}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H1700.
that x1768
(1768) Complement
דִּי
diy
{dee}
(Chaldee); apparently for H1668; that, used as relative, conjugational, and especially (with preposition) in adverbial phrases; also as a preposition of.
the living 2417
{2417} Prime
חַי
chay
{khah'-ee}
(Chaldee); from H2418; alive; also (as noun in plural) life.
may know 3046
{3046} Prime
יְדַע
y@da`
{yed-ah'}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H3045.
z8748
<8748> Grammar
Stem - Peal (See H8837)
Mood - Imperfect (See H8811)
Count - 145
that x1768
(1768) Complement
דִּי
diy
{dee}
(Chaldee); apparently for H1668; that, used as relative, conjugational, and especially (with preposition) in adverbial phrases; also as a preposition of.
`Illäyä´ עִלָּיָא 5943
{5943} Prime
עִלָּי
`illay
{il-lah'-ee}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H5942; supreme (that is, God).
ruleth 7990
{7990} Prime
שַׁלִּיט
shalliyt
{shal-leet'}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H7989; mighty; abstractly permission; concretely a premier.
in the kingdom 4437
{4437} Prime
מַלְכּוּ
malkuw
{mal-koo'}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H4438; dominion (abstractly or concretely).
of men, 606
{0606} Prime
אֱנָשׁ
'enash
{en-awsh'}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H0582; a man.
and giveth 5415
{5415} Prime
נְתַן
n@than
{neth-an'}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H5414; give.
z8748
<8748> Grammar
Stem - Peal (See H8837)
Mood - Imperfect (See H8811)
Count - 145
it to whomsoever 4479
{4479} Prime
מַן
man
{mawn}
(Chaldee); from H4101; who or what (properly interrogitive, hence also indefinite and relative).
x1768
(1768) Complement
דִּי
diy
{dee}
(Chaldee); apparently for H1668; that, used as relative, conjugational, and especially (with preposition) in adverbial phrases; also as a preposition of.
he will, 6634
{6634} Prime
צְבָּא
ts@ba'
{tseb-aw'}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H6633 in the figuratively sense of summoning one's wishes; to please.
z8748
<8748> Grammar
Stem - Peal (See H8837)
Mood - Imperfect (See H8811)
Count - 145
and setteth up 6966
{6966} Prime
קוּם
quwm
{koom}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H6965.
z8681
<8681> Grammar
Stem - Aphel (See H8817)
Mood - Imperfect (See H8811)
Count - 36
over 5922
{5922} Prime
עַל
`al
{al}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H5921.
it the basest 8215
{8215} Prime
שְׁפַל
sh@phal
{shef-al'}
(Chaldee); from H8214; low.
of men. 606
{0606} Prime
אֱנָשׁ
'enash
{en-awsh'}
(Chaldee); corresponding to H0582; a man.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary

Daniel 4:17

_ _ demand — that is, determination; namely, as to the change to which Nebuchadnezzar is to be doomed. A solemn council of the heavenly ones is supposed (compare Job 1:6; Job 2:1), over which God presides supreme. His “decree” and “word” are therefore said to be theirs (compare Daniel 4:24, “decree of the Most High”); “the decree of the watchers,” “the word of the holy ones.” For He has placed particular kingdoms under the administration of angelic beings, subject to Him (Daniel 10:13, Daniel 10:20; Daniel 12:1). The word “demand,” in the second clause, expresses a distinct idea from the first clause. Not only as members of God’s council (Daniel 7:10; 1 Kings 22:19; Psalms 103:21; Zechariah 1:10) do they subscribe to His “decree,” but that decree is in answer to their prayers, wherein they demand that every mortal who tries to obscure the glory of God shall be humbled [Calvin]. Angels are grieved when God’s prerogative is in the least infringed. How awful to Nebuchadnezzar to know that angels plead against him for his pride, and that the decree has been passed in the high court of heaven for his humiliation in answer to angels’ demands! The conceptions are molded in a form peculiarly adapted to Nebuchadnezzar’s modes of thought.

_ _ the living — not as distinguished from the dead, but from the inhabitants of heaven, who “know” that which the men of the world need to the taught (Psalms 9:16); the ungodly confess there is a God, but would gladly confine Him to heaven. But, saith Daniel, God ruleth not merely there, but “in the kingdom of men.”

_ _ basest — the lowest in condition (1 Samuel 2:8; Luke 1:52). It is not one’s talents, excellency, or noble birth, but God’s will, which elevates to the throne. Nebuchadnezzar abased to the dunghill, and then restored, was to have in himself an experimental proof of this (Daniel 4:37).

Matthew Henry's Commentary

See commentary on Daniel 4:4-18.

John Wesley's Explanatory Notes

Daniel 4:17

Of the holy ones — The decree was God's, and the demand was of the holy angels; if God enact it, the angels had the dispensation of it put into their hands, and they all consent to it as a just judgment of God to be executed by them according to the will of God. The most high ruleth — Nebuchadnezzar and his flatterers conceded he was a god in earth unaccountable to any. But the great God will make all men know he rules all in earth too, and sets up at his pleasure whom he will, and plucks them down again.

Geneva Bible Translation Notes

Daniel 4:17

(i) This matter [is] by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

(i) God has decreed this judgment and the whole army of heaven has as it were joined in being a part of it, just as they also desire the execution of his decree against all those that lift up themselves against God.

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by the:

Daniel 4:13-14 I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, behold, a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven; ... He cried aloud, and said thus, Hew down the tree, and cut off his branches, shake off his leaves, and scatter his fruit: let the beasts get away from under it, and the fowls from his branches:
1 Kings 22:19-20 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left. ... And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.
1 Timothy 5:21 I charge [thee] before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

the holy:

Daniel 4:8-9 But at the last Daniel came in before me, whose name [was] Belteshazzar, according to the name of my god, and in whom [is] the spirit of the holy gods: and before him I told the dream, [saying], ... O Belteshazzar, master of the magicians, because I know that the spirit of the holy gods [is] in thee, and no secret troubleth thee, tell me the visions of my dream that I have seen, and the interpretation thereof.
Daniel 4:13 I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, behold, a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven;
Isaiah 6:3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, [is] the LORD of hosts: the whole earth [is] full of his glory.
Isaiah 6:8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here [am] I; send me.
Revelation 4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about [him]; and [they were] full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

that the living:

Psalms 9:16 The LORD is known [by] the judgment [which] he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.
Psalms 83:17-18 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: ... That [men] may know that thou, whose name alone [is] JEHOVAH, [art] the most high over all the earth.
Ezekiel 25:17 And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I [am] the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.

the most High:

Daniel 4:25 That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
Daniel 4:32-35 And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling [shall be] with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will. ... And all the inhabitants of the earth [are] reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and [among] the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
Daniel 2:21 And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
Daniel 5:18-21 O thou king, the most high God gave Nebuchadnezzar thy father a kingdom, and majesty, and glory, and honour: ... And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling [was] with the wild asses: they fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven; till he knew that the most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and [that] he appointeth over it whomsoever he will.
Jeremiah 27:5-7 I have made the earth, the man and the beast that [are] upon the ground, by my great power and by my outstretched arm, and have given it unto whom it seemed meet unto me. ... And all nations shall serve him, and his son, and his son's son, until the very time of his land come: and then many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of him.

giveth:

Psalms 75:6-7 For promotion [cometh] neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south. ... But God [is] the judge: he putteth down one, and setteth up another.

the basest:

Daniel 4:25 That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
Daniel 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
Exodus 9:16 And in very deed for this [cause] have I raised thee up, for to shew [in] thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.
1 Samuel 2:8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, [and] lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set [them] among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth [are] the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them.
1 Kings 21:25 But there was none like unto Ahab, which did sell himself to work wickedness in the sight of the LORD, whom Jezebel his wife stirred up.
2 Kings 21:6-18 And he made his son pass through the fire, and observed times, and used enchantments, and dealt with familiar spirits and wizards: he wrought much wickedness in the sight of the LORD, to provoke [him] to anger. ... And Manasseh slept with his fathers, and was buried in the garden of his own house, in the garden of Uzza: and Amon his son reigned in his stead.
2 Chronicles 28:22 And in the time of his distress did he trespass yet more against the LORD: this [is that] king Ahaz.
Psalms 12:8 The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.
Psalms 113:7-8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, [and] lifteth the needy out of the dunghill; ... That he may set [him] with princes, [even] with the princes of his people.
Ezekiel 7:24 Wherefore I will bring the worst of the heathen, and they shall possess their houses: I will also make the pomp of the strong to cease; and their holy places shall be defiled.
1 Corinthians 1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, [yea], and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
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