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2 Samuel 16:23 [study!]

American Standard Version (ASV 1901) [2]
— And the counsel of Ahithophel, which he gave in those days, was as if a man inquired at the oracle of God: so was all the counsel of Ahithophel both with David and with Absalom.
King James Version (KJV 1769)
— And the counsel of Ahithophel, which he counselled in those days, [was] as if a man had enquired at the oracle of God: so [was] all the counsel of Ahithophel both with David and with Absalom.
New American Standard Bible (NASB ©1995)
— The advice of Ahithophel, which he gave in those days, [was] as if one inquired of the word of God; so was all the advice of Ahithophel [regarded] by both David and Absalom.
Webster's Revision of the KJB (WEB 1833)
— And the counsel of Ahithophel, which he counseled in those days, [was] as if a man had inquired at the oracle of God: so [was] all the counsel of Ahithophel both with David and with Absalom.
Darby's Translation (DBY 1890)
— And the counsel of Ahithophel, which he counselled in those days, was as if a man had inquired of the word of God: so was all the counsel of Ahithophel both with David and with Absalom.
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (EBR 1902)
— Now, the counsel of Ahithophel which he counselled in those days, was as if a man had enquired at the oracle of God,—so, was all the counsel of Ahithophel, both to David, and also to Absolom.
Young's Literal Translation (YLT 1898)
— And the counsel of Ahithophel which he counselled in those days [is] as [when] one inquireth at the word of God; so [is] all the counsel of Ahithophel both to David and to Absalom.
Douay-Rheims Challoner Revision (DR 1750)
— Now the counsel of Achitophel, which he gave in those days, was as if a man should consult God: so was all the counsel of Achitophel, both when he was with David, and when he was with Absalom.
Original King James Bible (AV 1611) [2]
— And the counsell of Ahithophel which he counselled in those dayes, was as if a man had enquired at the Oracle of God: so [was] all the counsell of Ahithophel, both with Dauid and with Absalom.
Brenton Greek Septuagint (LXX, Restored Names)
— And the counsel of Ahithophel{gr.Achitophel}, which he counselled in former days, [was] as if one should enquire of the word of God: so [was] all the counsel of Ahithophel{gr.Achitophel} both to David and also to Absalom{gr.Abessalom}.
Full Hebrew Names / Holy Name KJV (2008) [2] [3]
— And the counsel of Achithofel, which he counselled in those days, [was] as if a man had enquired at the oracle of Elohim: so [was] all the counsel of Achithofel both with Dawid and with Avshalom.

Strong's Numbers & Hebrew NamesHebrew Old TestamentColor-Code/Key Word Studies
And the counsel 6098
{6098} Prime
עֵצָה
`etsah
{ay-tsaw'}
From H3289; advice; by implication plan; also prudence.
of fel אֲחִיתֹפֶל, 302
{0302} Prime
אֲחִיתֹפֶל
'Achiythophel
{akh-ee-tho'-fel}
From H0251 and H8602; brother of folly; Achithophel, an Israelite.
which x834
(0834) Complement
אֲשֶׁר
'asher
{ash-er'}
A primitive relative pronoun (of every gender and number); who, which, what, that; also (as adverb and conjunction) when, where, how, because, in order that, etc.
he counselled 3289
{3289} Prime
יָעַץ
ya`ats
{yaw-ats'}
A primitive root; to advise; reflexively to deliberate or resolve.
z8804
<8804> Grammar
Stem - Qal (See H8851)
Mood - Perfect (See H8816)
Count - 12562
in those x1992
(1992) Complement
הֵם
hem
{haym}
Masculine plural from H1931; they (only used when emphatic).
days, 3117
{3117} Prime
יוֹם
yowm
{yome}
From an unused root meaning to be hot; a day (as the warm hours), whether literally (from sunrise to sunset, or from one sunset to the next), or figuratively (a space of time defined by an associated term), (often used adverbially).
[was] as x834
(0834) Complement
אֲשֶׁר
'asher
{ash-er'}
A primitive relative pronoun (of every gender and number); who, which, what, that; also (as adverb and conjunction) when, where, how, because, in order that, etc.
if a man 376
{0376} Prime
אִישׁ
'iysh
{eesh}
Contracted for H0582 (or perhaps rather from an unused root meaning to be extant); a man as an individual or a male person; often used as an adjunct to a more definite term (and in such cases frequently not expressed in translation.).
had enquired 7592
{7592} Prime
שָׁאַל
sha'al
{shaw-al'}
A primitive root; to inquire; by implication to request; by extension to demand.
z8799
<8799> Grammar
Stem - Qal (See H8851)
Mood - Imperfect (See H8811)
Count - 19885
at the oracle 1697
{1697} Prime
דָּבָר
dabar
{daw-baw'}
From H1696; a word; by implication a matter (as spoken of) or thing; adverbially a cause.
of lhm אֱלֹהִים: 430
{0430} Prime
אֱלֹהִים
'elohiym
{el-o-heem'}
Plural of H0433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative.
so x3651
(3651) Complement
כֵּן
ken
{kane}
From H3559; properly set upright; hence (figuratively as adjective) just; but usually (as adverb or conjugation) rightly or so (in various applications to manner, time and relation; often with other particles).
[was] all x3605
(3605) Complement
כֹּל
kol
{kole}
From H3634; properly the whole; hence all, any or every (in the singular only, but often in a plural sense).
the counsel 6098
{6098} Prime
עֵצָה
`etsah
{ay-tsaw'}
From H3289; advice; by implication plan; also prudence.
of fel אֲחִיתֹפֶל 302
{0302} Prime
אֲחִיתֹפֶל
'Achiythophel
{akh-ee-tho'-fel}
From H0251 and H8602; brother of folly; Achithophel, an Israelite.
both x1571
(1571) Complement
גַּם
gam
{gam}
By contraction from an unused root meaning to gather; properly assemblage; used only adverbially also, even, yea, though; often repeated as correlation both... and.
with Dwi דָּוִד 1732
{1732} Prime
דָּוִד
David
{daw-veed'}
From the same as H1730; loving; David, the youngest son of Jesse.
and x1571
(1571) Complement
גַּם
gam
{gam}
By contraction from an unused root meaning to gather; properly assemblage; used only adverbially also, even, yea, though; often repeated as correlation both... and.
with Avlm אַבשָׁלוֹם. 53
{0053} Prime
אַבְשָׁלוֹם
'Abiyshalowm
{ab-ee-shaw-lome'}
From H0001 and H7965; father of peace (that is, friendly); Abshalom, a son of David; also (the fuller form) a later Israelite.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary

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Matthew Henry's Commentary

See commentary on 2 Samuel 16:15-23.

John Wesley's Explanatory Notes

2 Samuel 16:23

The counsel, &c. — It was received by the people with equal veneration, and was usually attended with as certain success. Which is mentioned as the reason why a counsel which had so ill a face, should meet with such general approbation.

Geneva Bible Translation Notes

2 Samuel 16:23

And the counsel of Ahithophel, which he counselled in those days, [was] as if a man had (l) enquired at the oracle of God: so [was] all the counsel of Ahithophel both with David and with Absalom.

(l) It was so esteemed for the success of it.

Cross-Reference Topical ResearchStrong's Concordance
as if:

Numbers 27:21 And he shall stand before Eleazar the priest, who shall ask [counsel] for him after the judgment of Urim before the LORD: at his word shall they go out, and at his word they shall come in, [both] he, and all the children of Israel with him, even all the congregation.
1 Samuel 30:8 And David enquired at the LORD, saying, Shall I pursue after this troop? shall I overtake them? And he answered him, Pursue: for thou shalt surely overtake [them], and without fail recover [all].
Psalms 28:2 Hear the voice of my supplications, when I cry unto thee, when I lift up my hands toward thy holy oracle.
1 Peter 4:11 If any man speak, [let him speak] as the oracles of God; if any man minister, [let him do it] as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

oracle of God:
Heb. word of God,
Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD [is] perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD [is] sure, making wise the simple.

so was:
The first counsel of this sagacious but wicked man to Absalom was more like an oracle of Satan, both for subtlety and atrocity. He advised the shameless measure just detailed, in order to establish Absalom, and to preclude the possibility of a reconciliation with David. The wives of a conquered king were always the property of the conqueror; and in possessing these he appeared to possess the right to the kingdom.

all the counsel:

2 Samuel 17:14 And Absalom and all the men of Israel said, The counsel of Hushai the Archite [is] better than the counsel of Ahithophel. For the LORD had appointed to defeat the good counsel of Ahithophel, to the intent that the LORD might bring evil upon Absalom.
2 Samuel 17:23 And when Ahithophel saw that his counsel was not followed, he saddled [his] ass, and arose, and gat him home to his house, to his city, and put his household in order, and hanged himself, and died, and was buried in the sepulchre of his father.
Job 5:12 He disappointeth the devices of the crafty, so that their hands cannot perform [their] enterprise.
Job 28:28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that [is] wisdom; and to depart from evil [is] understanding.
Jeremiah 4:22 For my people [is] foolish, they have not known me; they [are] sottish children, and they have none understanding: they [are] wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.
Jeremiah 8:9 The wise [men] are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom [is] in them?
Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
Luke 16:8 And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
1 Corinthians 3:19-20 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. ... And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
James 3:13-18 Who [is] a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. ... And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

both:

2 Samuel 15:12 And Absalom sent for Ahithophel the Gilonite, David's counsellor, from his city, [even] from Giloh, while he offered sacrifices. And the conspiracy was strong; for the people increased continually with Absalom.
Ecclesiastes 10:1 Dead flies cause the ointment of the apothecary to send forth a stinking savour: [so doth] a little folly him that is in reputation for wisdom [and] honour.
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Nu 27:21. 1S 30:8. 2S 15:12; 17:14, 23. Jb 5:12; 28:28. Ps 19:7; 28:2. Ec 10:1. Jr 4:22; 8:9. Mt 11:25. Lk 16:8. Ro 1:22. 1Co 3:19. Jm 3:13. 1P 4:11.

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