"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." - This, I believe, is the most hated verse in the Bible! Almost all Bibles leave it out or have put it in footnotes! Let's compare it with 1. Thess. 5:23 "Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely, and may your entire spirit, soul, and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ." Now, God created us in his image. (Gen. 1:26) This way we have a live metaphor of God = Elohim. He says: "let us make man". Elohim is plural, and "us" is plural and nobody can explain it away, not even a Hebrew scholar! I know what they say: It is a "royal" expression! But what about Elohim!? We could also say: "El" or "Elohai", which is my God. El or Al is God in many languages. Now, I will prove you how old this text is, in case you have any doubt! http://textus-receptus.com/wiki/1_John_5:7 Quote: "...the UBS Greek NT (4th ed.) notes that the Comma Johanneum is attested by the Latin church fathers (Cyprian) (d. 258), (Pseudo-Cyprian) (4th century), (Priscillian) (d. 385), the Speculum (5th century), Varimadum (UBS date "445/480"), Pseudo-Vigilius (4th or 5th century), and Fulgentius (d. 533), as well as a few manuscripts." - So, this is new to you? USB4 is the newest our Bibles have been translated from and they put it in footnotes!?!? Why? I say: an evil spirit! Read also 2. Cor. 13:14, Mt. 28:19 These three verses are all of the same nature and have nothing to do with Nicaea 325! Now, still, I have not said, that God and the Holy Ghost are a person, but Jesus was! Let's read what Rev. 3:21 states, which most people have forgotten and only quote v. 20! "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne." - Three sit on the throne! God, Jesus and those who have overcome! It is all imagery! Imagine, that we, you and I will sit with Jesus on a throne together with his father! It is the Holy Spirit, that is within us, which raised Jesus from the dead, and will do so with us! 1 Cor. 15:44 "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body." So, our spiritual bodies will sit with God and Jesus on the throne if we overcome! This is the Holy Trinity, the Bible speaks about! If you say, it is untrue, then I will say: then there is also no Bible! Because, Jesus and the Apostles did not know anything of the Bible, that it contains 66 books, 39 in the Old and 27 in the New Testament! 3x9=27! In the middles of the first verse of the Bible we have the word: "AT" - Aleph and Taw. In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heavens and the earth. This reads in Hebrew: Bereshit Elohim “AT” ha sha maim, we ha arez. “AT” means: Aleph and Taw, like Alpha and Omega in Greek and therefore God and Jesus are the A and the O in Rev. 1:8 and 22:13. Have you noticed, that the book of Revelation has 22 chapters as the Hebrew Alphabet! Have you noticed, that the tree of life appears in the second chapter of the Bible and the last chapter of the Bible! The Bible is a book, which is closed in itself. How could Matthew know, that Luke would write a family tree of Jesus!? But both contain them, only, Luke has it in ch. 3 and Matthew in ch. 1! Matthew goes as far back as Abraham and Luke as far back as Adam! Nt. 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations." Three times fourteen! Three seems to be a number, which we need to remember when we thing about God! From Abraham to Adam there are twenty generations. Did you count them before as I just did? Ok. It is correct. https://www.bibleserver.com/text/NIV/Luke3 Jesus stems from Methuselah, which was the oldest person on earth: 969 years. Jesus was a Semite. Jesus was a son of Enoch (who was raptured to heaven straight away and after whom the famous but bad book of Enoch is named - I say bad, because it tells lies.) So, what did Jesus say about three in one? John. 17:21 "...that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you." One in the Spirit! I help you how you can compare the Holy Spirit! Rev. 22:17 "The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!”" - So, if the bride is a person, then the Holy Spirit also is a person! Have I said he is a person? No! I only reasoned! Why? Because, have you ever seen a bride as a ghost!? A bride always is a person. Son, when the bride, which is imagery of the Bible again, is a person, then the imagery of the Holy Spirit is true also! In Hebrew we speak of the Shekinah שכינה‎‎ Glory. https://youtu.be/b9RP4ugHbQ4?list=PLxHkdEXvO_4ySGcJQNvSzaKFgs_5oA-wA
- christof bucherer M.Div. (7/13/2017 2:21:54 PM)

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